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Am I The Only One Who Thinks Hilliary Clinton is more Full of SH## Than the Average Politician?

Stiff
Stiff Legion of Trill BGMembers Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
I can't stand hearing her speeches about her thinly veiled loyalty to corporations. She's the most "just tell them whatever they want to hear" wanna-be populist ass politician in recent memory...even moreso than Obama. When Hilliary gives speeches in New York she sounds like a new yorker. When she gives them in the south she sounds like a southerner..wtf.

I wish people would stop sleeping on Bernie Sanders. Dude been talking all the same 🤬 since the 70's and isn't sponsored by millionaires and billionaires..unlike HC. She's a corporatist democrat who damn near sounds like she believes in trickle-down economics. Bernie Sanders also doesn't support the same level of crazy gun control that hilliary does that will keep guns out of the hands of law abiding Blacks.

Hilliary clinton changes her position with whatever the tide is. Y'all gon learn.
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  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this woman is not going to be president
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2015
    I really don't trust Hillary, I've spoken on this in several threads here. She is better then most Republicans, but not by much. After the Libya disaster, it's gonna take a miracle for her to win my vote.
  • Stiff
    Stiff Legion of Trill BG Members Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    this woman is not going to be president

    Who you think is? I think she's the most likely...I like the noise Bernie making tho
  • Stiff
    Stiff Legion of Trill BG Members Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really don't trust Hillary, I've spoken on this in several threads here. She is better then most Republicans, but not by much. After the Libya disaster, it's gonna take a miracle for her to win my vote.

    if she wins the nomination I'm prolly not voting (for president at least)
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    this woman is not going to be president

    Who you think is? I think she's the most likely...I like the noise Bernie making tho

    It's too early to say who is going to win but i believe we can count some people out.

    Trump is not going to win

    Ron Paul unfortunately is not going to win his ideas and ideology still have not penetrated the American mainstream.

    Bernie is not going to win and thank 🤬 for that, he's far to liberal and America is not that far gone yet.

    Hillary is not going to win, she has a dead dry personality, scandals and she stands on nothing and unlike better politicians her fakeness is too obvious.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If Bernie Sanders becomes president he will try to turn America into Europe. Which is something that will never work.
  • Stiff
    Stiff Legion of Trill BG Members Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    this woman is not going to be president

    Who you think is? I think she's the most likely...I like the noise Bernie making tho

    It's too early to say who is going to win but i believe we can count some people out.

    Trump is not going to win

    Ron Paul unfortunately is not going to win his ideas and ideology still have not penetrated the American mainstream.

    Bernie is not going to win and thank 🤬 for that, he's far to liberal and America is not that far gone yet.

    Hillary is not going to win, she has a dead dry personality, scandals and she stands on nothing and unlike better politicians her fakeness is too obvious.

    In summer 2007 would you have said that it was possible for a half-African man to be elected president?

    It sounds like you think Jeb Bush is going to win.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    this woman is not going to be president

    Who you think is? I think she's the most likely...I like the noise Bernie making tho

    It's too early to say who is going to win but i believe we can count some people out.

    Trump is not going to win

    Ron Paul unfortunately is not going to win his ideas and ideology still have not penetrated the American mainstream.

    Bernie is not going to win and thank 🤬 for that, he's far to liberal and America is not that far gone yet.

    Hillary is not going to win, she has a dead dry personality, scandals and she stands on nothing and unlike better politicians her fakeness is too obvious.

    In summer 2007 would you have said that it was possible for a half-African man to be elected president?

    It sounds like you think Jeb Bush is going to win.

    I knew Obama was going to win the minute he beat Hillary because Bush was hated so much that there was no chance for any republican to win.

    Is Jeb going to win??? It's possible but I doubt it.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    European styled Socialism will not work in America it barely works in Europe.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And Bernie Sanders seems like that's what he wants.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    I really don't trust Hillary, I've spoken on this in several threads here. She is better then most Republicans, but not by much. After the Libya disaster, it's gonna take a miracle for her to win my vote.

    if she wins the nomination I'm prolly not voting (for president at least)

    I wouldn't blame you, I've heard other people say the same. It's early so I'm hoping more competition gets in the race but Bernie has been capturing my attention though, some say his socialist policies are bad but the happiest nations in Europe have socialist governments.


  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    I really don't trust Hillary, I've spoken on this in several threads here. She is better then most Republicans, but not by much. After the Libya disaster, it's gonna take a miracle for her to win my vote.

    if she wins the nomination I'm prolly not voting (for president at least)

    I wouldn't blame you, I've heard other people say the same. It's early so I'm hoping more competition gets in the race but Bernie has been capturing my attention though, some say his socialist policies are bad but the happiest nations in Europe have socialist governments.


    Those nations are small with low populations and heavy taxes with what you know about America ,Americans and our political culture and structure you really think that kind of 🤬 is going to work??? There will be massive political gridlock that America has never seen before.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2015
    zzombie wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I really don't trust Hillary, I've spoken on this in several threads here. She is better then most Republicans, but not by much. After the Libya disaster, it's gonna take a miracle for her to win my vote.

    if she wins the nomination I'm prolly not voting (for president at least)

    I wouldn't blame you, I've heard other people say the same. It's early so I'm hoping more competition gets in the race but Bernie has been capturing my attention though, some say his socialist policies are bad but the happiest nations in Europe have socialist governments.


    Those nations are small with low populations and heavy taxes with what you know about America ,Americans and our political culture and structure you really think that kind of 🤬 is going to work??? There will be massive political gridlock that America has never seen before.

    If America spends less on war, increases taxes on the rich like in the Bill Clinton era, and spends money on less waste, maybe.

    If a small tax increase on the average person gets done too, to benefit the greater good, then yes I do think it's possible. Not perfect, but possible.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I really don't trust Hillary, I've spoken on this in several threads here. She is better then most Republicans, but not by much. After the Libya disaster, it's gonna take a miracle for her to win my vote.

    if she wins the nomination I'm prolly not voting (for president at least)

    I wouldn't blame you, I've heard other people say the same. It's early so I'm hoping more competition gets in the race but Bernie has been capturing my attention though, some say his socialist policies are bad but the happiest nations in Europe have socialist governments.


    Those nations are small with low populations and heavy taxes with what you know about America ,Americans and our political culture and structure you really think that kind of 🤬 is going to work??? There will be massive political gridlock that America has never seen before.

    If America spends less on war, increases taxes on the rich like in the Bill Clinton era, and spends money on less waste, maybe.

    If a small tax increase on the average person gets done too, to benefit the greater good, then yes I do think it's possible. Not perfect, but possible.

    Taxing the rich too much doesn't work they just find legal ways around it.

    A small tax increase on the average person?? I think you better look at what Bernie wants to do again.
  • Rubato Garcia
    Rubato Garcia Members Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the only serious candidates end up being Jeb and Hillary you'll most likely see a all-time low voter turnout...
  • janklow
    janklow god's lonely man. Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    no, you are not. case in point:
    Stiff wrote: »
    I can't stand hearing her speeches about her thinly veiled loyalty to corporations. She's the most "just tell them whatever they want to hear" wanna-be populist ass politician in recent memory...even moreso than Obama.
    remember when Obama went back on a publicly-financed campaign because, well, money? and Hillary hates money in politics, but she'll use it because, well, money? frankly, Republicans who are like "🤬 it, go super PACs" are at least being honest with us.

    but no, this is my major objection to Clinton (and also O'Malley, and other politicians, but let's stay on point): it's blindingly obvious to me that the only thing she believes in is getting elected. when centrist Dems were the thing, she was one. now it's Warren Warren Warren, and she's a liberal warrior. meanwhile, despite bashing the TPP thing due to her newfound liberalism, she STILL can't honestly express what she thinks and why about it.

    i don't really love Sanders, and i will not vote for him (go third party) but if i was going to vote for a Democrat... well, him or Jim Webb. 🤬 these phonies.


    side note: if Sanders is going to talk about the differences in firearms in different regions, i would appreciate him getting off assault weapons/high-capacity magazines (yes, yes, i know it's the official DNC policy), since these terms don't mean anything. and yet he STILL has a better record on this than they do.
  • Stiff
    Stiff Legion of Trill BG Members Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    no, you are not. case in point:
    Stiff wrote: »
    I can't stand hearing her speeches about her thinly veiled loyalty to corporations. She's the most "just tell them whatever they want to hear" wanna-be populist ass politician in recent memory...even moreso than Obama.
    remember when Obama went back on a publicly-financed campaign because, well, money? and Hillary hates money in politics, but she'll use it because, well, money? frankly, Republicans who are like "🤬 it, go super PACs" are at least being honest with us.

    but no, this is my major objection to Clinton (and also O'Malley, and other politicians, but let's stay on point): it's blindingly obvious to me that the only thing she believes in is getting elected. when centrist Dems were the thing, she was one. now it's Warren Warren Warren, and she's a liberal warrior. meanwhile, despite bashing the TPP thing due to her newfound liberalism, she STILL can't honestly express what she thinks and why about it.

    i don't really love Sanders, and i will not vote for him (go third party) but if i was going to vote for a Democrat... well, him or Jim Webb. 🤬 these phonies.


    side note: if Sanders is going to talk about the differences in firearms in different regions, i would appreciate him getting off assault weapons/high-capacity magazines (yes, yes, i know it's the official DNC policy), since these terms don't mean anything. and yet he STILL has a better record on this than they do.

    I was thinking about the whole gun control issue the other day...and realized guns are never going anywhere in this country. The south , southwest, and midwest cling waaaaaay too hard their guns to ever allow their reps/senators submit to any kind of federal gun regulation that extends any further than where it already is.

    I literally think that a second civil war would launch before there is ever British style gun control is this country.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I really don't trust Hillary, I've spoken on this in several threads here. She is better then most Republicans, but not by much. After the Libya disaster, it's gonna take a miracle for her to win my vote.

    if she wins the nomination I'm prolly not voting (for president at least)

    I wouldn't blame you, I've heard other people say the same. It's early so I'm hoping more competition gets in the race but Bernie has been capturing my attention though, some say his socialist policies are bad but the happiest nations in Europe have socialist governments.


    Those nations are small with low populations and heavy taxes with what you know about America ,Americans and our political culture and structure you really think that kind of 🤬 is going to work??? There will be massive political gridlock that America has never seen before.

    If America spends less on war, increases taxes on the rich like in the Bill Clinton era, and spends money on less waste, maybe.

    If a small tax increase on the average person gets done too, to benefit the greater good, then yes I do think it's possible. Not perfect, but possible.

    Taxing the rich too much doesn't work they just find legal ways around it.

    A small tax increase on the average person?? I think you better look at what Bernie wants to do again.

    Taxes alone won't be enough, that's why lowering spending in other departments like the military will save money. Realistically Bernie can't do everything he wants with America's debt but he can make efforts to improve the way money is spent in this country.

    I'm willing to hear more from him on his exact plans but I don't expect him to be perfect. His judgment seems wise on many subjects though, he was against the dumb Iraq War from the beginning, that's a huge plus in my book.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2015
    If the only serious candidates end up being Jeb and Hillary you'll most likely see a all-time low voter turnout...

    I agree, most of the women I know don't seem excited about Hillary. Only a few relatives of mine are, but most don't seem to care about the front runners. I thought Hillary would have excited them more.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2015
    One more reason to not trust Hillary, she is still hungry for blood after her 🤬 ups in Libya and Iraq......

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran/5460484

    Hillary Clinton: “If I’m President, We Will Attack Iran”

    July 05, 2015

    On Friday, presidential aspirant Hillary Clinton addressed a hand-picked audience at a Dartmouth College campaign event. She lied calling Iran an “existential threat to Israel… I hope we are able to get a deal next week that puts a lid on (its) nuclear weapons program.”

    “I want the Iranians to know that if I’m president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”

    --Americans, for the love of 🤬 , DO NOT elect Hillary and do not elect Jeb Bush. Both are two sides of the same coin.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No matter who we elect except Ron Paul there will be more war.
  • Melqart
    Melqart Epistemophilic Pronounced Malk-artGuests, Members Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2015
    i wonder why her blatant lie about being shot at in bosnia didnt hurt her career but a similar lie ended brians.
  • janklow
    janklow god's lonely man. Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    Stiff wrote: »
    The south , southwest, and midwest cling waaaaaay too hard their guns to ever allow their reps/senators submit to any kind of federal gun regulation that extends any further than where it already is.
    i am sure people said this pre-1934, pre-1968, pre-1986, pre-1994, etc, etc. i think i skipped Bush's I's 🤬 in there.
    all i know is that people keeping 🤬 about how there's no gun control and my state decided to stack in on and see no benefit from it (except for 🤬 with gun owners)... unless you count using it to wave during the Democratic primary. hard to believe it'll never happen.

    but hey, this is just why i won't vote for a Democrat that can't prove he's at odds with his party on guns. your mileage may vary.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2015
    Oh 🤬 Donald Trump has a decent lead ahead of Jeb Bush now in a new poll...with Hillary's numbers going down along with Jeb Bush, I'm starting to think Trump actually has a shot, even after those Mexican comments. Shows how disgusted people are with the Bush name and Bernie's numbers are getting better as well, Hillary and Jeb better watch out

    http://www.examiner.com/article/new-poll-has-donald-trump-national-lead-for-second-week-a-row



  • Stiff
    Stiff Legion of Trill BG Members Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh 🤬 Donald Trump has a decent lead ahead of Jeb Bush now in a new poll...with Hillary's numbers going down along with Jeb Bush, I'm starting to think Trump actually has a shot, even after those Mexican comments. Shows how disgusted people are with the Bush name and Bernie's numbers are getting better as well, Hillary and Jeb better watch out

    http://www.examiner.com/article/new-poll-has-donald-trump-national-lead-for-second-week-a-row



    If donald trump becomes president of this country...I'm becoming Dominican again 🤬 that 🤬