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Malcolm X - Debate with James Baldwin - September 5, 1963

StoneColdMikey
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edited September 2015 in The Social Lounge


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  • genocidecutter
    genocidecutter Members Posts: 17,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Malcolm X was a genius
  • CapitalB
    CapitalB all these dollars.. no sense. Members Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    listened to this one before..
    think ill listen again...
  • D0wn
    D0wn Members Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    James Baldwin was the last 🤬 blk guy i know of, that actually combated wht supremacy ...
    🤬 blk men usually defend wht supremacy, getting 🤬 in the ass make them docile.
  • MECCA1000
    MECCA1000 Members Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Confident, relaxed demeanor
    Intelligent, articulate speaking factually


    *insert gif of the brother who was eating and stands up applauding *
  • SneakDZA
    SneakDZA damn, am I a sinner? Members Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Malcolm X was a genius

    Both those guys were. This is a good stuff.

    Notice how they disagree on many points yet let each other speak and stay respectful of each other. Damn this is such a nice change of pace from watching modern interview shows where they try to talk about a serious subject in 10 minutes and everybody is yelling over each other.
  • Arya Tsaddiq
    Arya Tsaddiq Shalawam The Daughter of BabylonMembers Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Malcolm X was a genius

    Both those guys were. This is a good stuff.

    Notice how they disagree on many points yet let each other speak and stay respectful of each other. Damn this is such a nice change of pace from watching modern interview shows where they try to talk about a serious subject in 10 minutes and everybody is yelling over each other.

    Ecclesiasticus 11:8

    Answer not before thou hast heard the cause: neither interrupt men in the midst of their talk
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    james balwin was an unnatural 🤬 but he did stand up to the white man
  • Focal Point
    Focal Point Kushite descent... wandering child from Meru of Old TrentonMembers Posts: 16,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was an excellent listen!
  • SneakDZA
    SneakDZA damn, am I a sinner? Members Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Here's a good follow-up...

    Is the American Dream at the expense of the American 🤬 ?


    This is a couple years later and you can hear Baldwin incorporating some of the ideas that Malcolm X (who I think was killed a few months before this) was talking about in the O/P during the debate at Cambridge where he crushes racist 🤬 William F. Buckley 540-160.

    It's interesting because you can tell that Baldwin didn't want to play into the spectacle of the debate as it was framed and shifted it to his own terms but still managed to tie his larger arguments into the theme. Buckley knew he was done before he got to the podium where he got deservedly booed, heckled and straight-up laughed at.
  • JokerzWyld
    JokerzWyld Fazer o que você gosta é liberdade. Gostar do que você faz é felicidade Chocolate CityMembers Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    His technique was masterful. Despite a lack of formal education Malcolm X was autodidactic and an adept debater.
  • Kairo
    Kairo Members Posts: 942 ✭✭✭✭
    Malcolm was that dude. America needs to embrace his genius and stop painting him as just a militant. He was more ore less a modern day renaissance man in what he accomplished.
  • Plutarch
    Plutarch A Tribe Called Fresh Philly, PA, by way of Ca$hville, TNMembers Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    James Baldwin was a saint.
  • NeighborhoodNomad.
    NeighborhoodNomad. Members Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • marc123
    marc123 Members Posts: 16,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great drop.

    Imma watch this later