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From Spygate to Delfategate....Scathing ESPN Article

themadlionsfanthemadlionsfan Members Posts: 9,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
The article is pretty long and I know most of you 🤬 are ADD, so I'll just post excerpts
just four days after league security officials had caught the Patriots and before he'd even sent a team of investigators to Foxborough, Massachusetts. Those investigators hadn't come up empty: Inside a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others, they found a library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents' signals, with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons. Among them were handwritten diagrams of the defensive signals of the Pittsburgh Steelers, including the notes used in the January 2002 AFC Championship Game won by the Patriots 24-17.
It reminded them of something they had seen before from the league and Patriots: At least two teams had caught New England videotaping their coaches' signals in 2006, yet the league did nothing. Further, NFL competition committee members had, over the years, fielded numerous allegations about New England breaking an array of rules.
And some would conclude it was as if Goodell, Kraft and Belichick had acted like partners, complicit in trying to sweep the scandal's details under the rug while the rest of the league was left wondering how much glory the Patriots' cheating had cost their teams. "Goodell didn't want anybody to know that his gold franchise had won Super Bowls by cheating," a senior executive whose team lost to the Patriots in a Super Bowl now says. "If that gets out, that hurts your business."
IN AUGUST 2000, before a Patriots preseason game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jimmy Dee, the head of New England's video department, approached one of his charges, Matt Walsh, with a strange assignment: He wanted Walsh to film the Bucs' offensive and defensive signals, the arm waving and hand folding that team coaches use to communicate plays and formations to the men on the field.

Years later, Walsh recalled to Senate investigators that Adams told old stories from the Browns about giving a video staffer an NFL Films shirt and assigning him to film the opponents' sideline huddles and grease boards from behind the bench.


Walsh would later work for the Patriots.

I'm probably hitting the limit, so I'll post a few more

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart

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  • themadlionsfanthemadlionsfan Members Posts: 9,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick's office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs' signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score -- a 21-16 Bucs win -- as evidence of Spygate's ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs' defenses before the snap.

    Now, the Patriots realized that they were on to something, a schematic edge that could allow their best minds more control on the field. Taping from the sideline increased efficiency and minimized confusion. And so, as Walsh later told investigators, the system improved, becoming more streamlined -- and more secretive. The quarterbacks were cut out of the process. The only people involved were a few coaches, the video staff and, of course, Adams. Belichick, almost five years after being fired by the Browns and fully aware that this was his last best shot as a head coach, placed an innovative system of cheating in the hands of his most trusted friend.
    The scout would give it to Adams, who would spend most of the week in his office with the door closed, matching the notes to the tapes filmed from the sideline. Files were created, organized by opponent and by coach. During games, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots' videographers were told to look like media members, to tape over their team logos or turn their sweatshirt inside out, to wear credentials that said Patriots TV or Kraft Productions. The videographers also were provided with excuses for what to tell NFL security if asked what they were doing: Tell them you're filming the quarterbacks. Or the kickers. Or footage for a team show.
  • jee504jee504 Members Posts: 6,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They had spies and 🤬 . Smh
  • ShizlanskyShizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NE had people in NFL gear.

    Lol

    To bad we will never know because all the evidence was destroyed. And that's why this 🤬 is 🤬 .
  • its....JOHN Bits....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • aneed123aneed123 Members Posts: 23,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    🤬 a disgrace
  • Huey_CHuey_C I'm a fucking prick.. Lord Huey Members Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man lock this chatty patty 🤬
  • RawAceRawAce Members Posts: 4,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seeing how competitive and secret the NFL is , I always thought all if not most teams did this type of stuff.

    Its qm open secret that teams sign guys to short term contracts just to get info about other teams so teams using staffers as spies shouldn't be surprising.
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man if all the 🤬 in that article is true, the Patriots need a few asterisks. They basically alleged that the Patriots was sending people into locker rooms to steal playbooks. That 🤬 is crazy.
  • EmM HoLLa.EmM HoLLa. Rolex Watches & Diamond Chains.. Members Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Through it all. They still couldn't beat this guy.. Shouts to the G-Men..

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  • Huey_CHuey_C I'm a fucking prick.. Lord Huey Members Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    Through it all. They still couldn't beat this guy.. Shouts to the G-Men..

    7669098.jpg

    🤬
  • Neophyte WolfgangNeophyte Wolfgang Members Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Patriots have to cheat to win, they have average talent on both sides of the ball, you can't win superbowls with average talent. There is high school players better then Julian Edelman, Brady 🤬 and dunks, all they got is Gronk who has any talent. Wilfork was good to (he's gone now)
  • Huey_CHuey_C I'm a fucking prick.. Lord Huey Members Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭✭✭
    fortyacres wrote: »
    Patriots have to cheat to win, they have average talent on both sides of the ball, you can't win superbowls with average talent. There is high school players better then Julian Edelman, Brady 🤬 and dunks, all they got is Gronk who has any talent. Wilfork was good to (he's gone now)


    This is the dumbest post of 2015.



    Yea what a 🤬
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