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Some Fascist saltine says Ben Carson is "more authentically" black then Pres. Barry Hussein...

stringer bell
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jonah-goldberg-carson-obama-authentically-afircan-american

http://www.mediaite.com/online/jonah-goldberg-you-could-argue-carson-is-more-authentically-african-american-than-obama/

Jonah Goldberg, a senior editor at the National Review, suggested in a Friday column that retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson is "more authentically African-American" than President Obama.

The conservative author lamented that the media never mentions that Carson is black before launching into his argument that Carson is "more" black than the president. Read Goldberg's comparison between Carson and Obama"

But what’s remarkable is that at no point in this conversation did anyone call attention to the fact that Carson is an African-American. Indeed, most analysis of Carson’s popularity from pundits focuses on his likable personality and his sincere Christian faith. But it’s intriguingly rare to hear people talk about the fact that he’s black.

One could argue that he’s even more authentically African-American than Barack Obama, given that Obama’s mother was white and he was raised in part by his white grandparents. In his autobiography, Obama writes at length about how he grew up outside the traditional African-American experience — in Hawaii and Indonesia — and how he consciously chose to adopt a black identity when he was in college.

Meanwhile, Carson grew up in Detroit, the son of a very poor, very hard-working single mother. His tale of rising from poverty to become the head of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital is one of the most inspiring rags-to-riches stories of the last half-century. (Cuba Gooding Jr. played Carson in the movie about his life.) He was a towering figure in the black community in Baltimore and nationally — at least, until he became a Republican politician.

And that probably explains why his race seems to be such a non-issue for the media. The New York Times is even reluctant to refer to him as a doctor. The Federalist reports that Jill Biden, who has a doctorate in education, is three times more likely to be referred to as “Dr.” in the Times as brain surgeon Carson. If the Times did that to a black Democrat, charges of racism would be thick in the air.
Goldberg's comments are reminiscent of tweets published by Rupert Murdoch earlier in October suggesting that Obama is not a "real black president."

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The National Review published an op-ed Friday by columnist and Fox News contributor Jonah Goldberg, who suggested that the argument of Ben Carson being “more African-American” than Barack Obama” is a valid one.

“Here’s something you may not know: Dr. Ben Carson is black,” Goldberg, author of the book Liberal Fascism, wrote, adding “The only way you wouldn’t know he’s black is if you were blind and only listened to the news.”

Goldberg criticized the news media for attempting to hide Carson’s blackness, writing that it is “intriguingly rare to hear people talk about the fact that he’s black.” “How strange it must be for people who comfort themselves with the slander that the GOP is a cult of organized racial hatred that the most popular politician among conservatives is a black man,” Goldberg wrote, adding that liberals ignore Carson’s race because “the race card is just too valuable politically and psychologically for liberals who need to believe that their political opponents are evil.”
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  • StillFaggyAF
    StillFaggyAF Queer LGBT CommunityMembers Posts: 40,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One could argue that he’s even more authentically African-American than Barack Obama, given that Obama’s mother was white and he was raised in part by his white grandparents. In his autobiography, Obama writes at length about how he grew up outside the traditional African-American experience — in Hawaii and Indonesia — and how he consciously chose to adopt a black identity when he was in college.

    this part is true
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But he's correct
  • Crude_
    Crude_ Legend Members Posts: 19,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A flawed argument and this article fails to mention that White people do not distinguish the level of Blackness of a Black person if a person has a drop of Black in them then Whites classify them as Black; it is only in the Black communities do we attempt to quantify the level of someone's Blackness,White folks don't do that they identify us all as Black.

    Ben Carson is nothing more than a White folks token 🤬 .

    Those very Whites he's appealing to don't give a damn about him, but some are willing to give him their vote because he appeals to their interest and don't underestimate the fact they can say "hey look I voted for a Black man to be leader of our country I can't be racist"
  • LPast
    LPast Members Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All I know is that we need to 3-peat...
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This does raise an interesting question. Would the Republican racists actually vote for a black man if he actually towed their party line?
  • ineedpussy
    ineedpussy long hair dont care but bald head dont give a fuck! Members Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    he's right though. ive always said obama aint the first black president cause he aint black like me. ben carson is the same type of black not obeezy
  • Trillfate
    Trillfate "i used to like the Ride more now i like the Race...i used like the Prize more now i like the Chase" Members Posts: 24,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stupid and divisive.
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    🤬 ain't new. A lot of African Americans were saying the same thing when Obama first ran for president.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    obama is black but he's not really african american
  • Billy_Poncho
    Billy_Poncho Vox Populi Members Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since when did white people decide who's black?
  • rapmusic
    rapmusic Members Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These people need to quit kidding themselves like they're actually going to put Ben Carson in the White House. Just stop it!
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When to many white ppl on your side, you're doing something wrong.

    Because whites always have their best interest in mind.
  • LPast
    LPast Members Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it's Carson vs Hillary in 2016, my blackness won't allow me to vote Hillary...
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    When to many white ppl on your side, you're doing something wrong.

    Because whites always have their best interest in mind.

    That ain't true, whites vote against their best interest all the time if it means sticking it to black people.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    When to many white ppl on your side, you're doing something wrong.

    Because whites always have their best interest in mind.

    That ain't true, whites vote against their best interest all the time if it means sticking it to black people.

    I'm talking about educated white ppl.
  • playmaker88
    playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yall 🤬 give credence to 🤬 like this in another plane all the 🤬 time..

    "real 🤬 " "authenticity" is in the DNA not anyones narrow minded perceptions of blackness
  • playmaker88
    playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2015
    LPast wrote: »
    If it's Carson vs Hillary in 2016, my blackness won't allow me to vote Hillary...

    Even if his policies thoughts/ideas go against yours or are you in agreement with those things listed

    i mean i see the"..."but if its sarcasm you gotta put italics or something
  • Crude_
    Crude_ Legend Members Posts: 19,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2015
    Most educated people vote in their best interest I don't necessarily blame anyone for doing what they feel is best for them and their family.

    The issue comes when people want to turn a blind eye to other people in society and the problems that effect them and their communities.

    A realistically equal and righteous America would care for all her children and an injustice to one sect of individuals would spark the same outrage as an injustice to anyone else.
  • StillFaggyAF
    StillFaggyAF Queer LGBT CommunityMembers Posts: 40,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since when did white people decide who's black?

    since forever. dudes in Africa didn't even call their continent "Africa" nor did they call each other "black"
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Who I am is Complex, What i am, simply put. I'm a Threat walking out the lions denGuests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    are there any white people whos authentic white-ness come into question
  • Brother_Five
    Brother_Five Road to PerditionMembers Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since when did white people decide who's black?

    Well actually
  • leftcoastkev
    leftcoastkev Nothing left to prove Bay Area, CAMembers Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2015
    Since when did white people decide who's black?



  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Eatin pussy and kickin ass Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    When to many white ppl on your side, you're doing something wrong.

    Because whites always have their best interest in mind.

    That ain't true, whites vote against their best interest all the time if it means sticking it to black people.

    lol that's so true. Keep them fighting over breadcrumbs while the elite make off with the whole cake.