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10 empires that came close to world 🤬

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  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a very respectable list, I didn't know the Persian Empire was that large in BC times. The Mongolians were truly no joke, Genghis Khan might be the greatest general of all time
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.
  • silverfoxx
    silverfoxx Sion Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 11,704 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The USA is not an empire
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    The USA is not an empire

    Don't worry most of the others on their weren't empires either. Was a 🤬 list
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also

    If I failed history class, then historians have failed history class as well.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also

    If I failed history class, then historians have failed history class as well.


    More like you failed to understand the things historians wrote that list is trash
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also

    If I failed history class, then historians have failed history class as well.


    More like you failed to understand the things historians wrote that list is trash

    If you say so!
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also

    If I failed history class, then historians have failed history class as well.


    More like you failed to understand the things historians wrote that list is trash

    If you say so!

    i'm not the only one
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also

    If I failed history class, then historians have failed history class as well.


    More like you failed to understand the things historians wrote that list is trash

    If you say so!

    i'm not the only one

    You're outnumbered badly. Part 1 of the video list has 8,015 upvotes, only 538 down votes. You lose.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also

    If I failed history class, then historians have failed history class as well.


    More like you failed to understand the things historians wrote that list is trash

    If you say so!

    i'm not the only one

    You're outnumbered badly. Part 1 of the video list has 8,015 upvotes, only 538 down votes. You lose.


    what is the votes on the video suppose to prove??? it proves nothing because the voters don't leave any reasoning once again you argue using fallacies
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Most of them weren't even empires but

    >🤬 Germany
    >Ottoman empire
    >Portuguese
    >United States

    Those four or objectively wrong and whoever came up with this list should be ashamed.

    The person who made this list isn't too far off, the Romans, Mongolians, Spaniards, Iranians and British had very large empires.

    I agree but this list is mostly 🤬 . Only the Romans, spaniard, British, actively participate a policy of expansion and we're successful at it.
    The Mongolians was as much an "Empire" as the Holy Roman empire was an "empire
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Ottoman Empire and the Ming Dynasty ran 🤬 for a min though
    Ottoman empire was strong during the 16th 17th century but fell into strong decline after that. Here is something particularly funny. To mehmed IV probably the strongest emperor of the Ottoman from the Cossacks. They basically beat him in a battle but mehmed still demanded there surrender. Here is there reply to his message.

    Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

    O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked 🤬 ? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a 🤬 , make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, 🤬 your mother.

    You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-🤬 of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before 🤬 , grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our 🤬 . Pig's snout, mare's 🤬 , slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

    So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our 🤬 !

    - Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.

    The Mongolians had a legit empire though, most historians agree on that. And the Iranians had a large landmass that historians agree was mostly an empire as well. The list isn't as bad as you say it is, America doesn't fit the historical bill of empire but it's very close to being one. America forcefully took a huge chunk of a damn continent, and has waged endless 🤬 and immoral wars across much of the world to keep a monopoly of power and resources.



    I see you failed history in school also

    If I failed history class, then historians have failed history class as well.


    More like you failed to understand the things historians wrote that list is trash

    If you say so!

    i'm not the only one

    You're outnumbered badly. Part 1 of the video list has 8,015 upvotes, only 538 down votes. You lose.


    what is the votes on the video suppose to prove??? it proves nothing because it the voters don't leave any reasoning once again you argue using fallacies

    You can disagree with the list if you want, but many others think it's respectable. Is it a perfect list, no, but there is no perfect list out there anyway. I personally would have put the Spaniards a little higher up, along with the ancient Egyptians.

    But I can understand why the list of nations was made the way it is, America isn't an empire in definition but its battles and wars for resources historically has been massive. Same for the empires that were named, the Mongolians and British especially.
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    My 🤬 how did the Mongolians have a legit empire if it broke down as soon as genhis khan son died? How is it an empire if individual khans have more power then the supposed emperor. How is it an empire if it's was spilt between khanates for the majority of its history. And on top of that the few times they were actually "united" it always ended in violent power struggles.

    Nobody's doubting they weren't strong and didn't control alot of areas but they were NOT an empire. They were an empire in the way that holy Roman empire was in that they weren't one at all.

    The list is 🤬 . Don't say top 10 empires and then not put empires.
  • Ajackson17
    Ajackson17 On the shoulders of Giants and Elders in history UniverseMembers Posts: 22,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    My 🤬 how did the Mongolians have a legit empire if it broke down as soon as genhis khan son broke diwn? How is it an empire if individual khans have more power then the supposed emperor. How is it an empire if it's was spilt between khanates for the majority of its history. And on top of that the few times they were actually "united" it always ended in violent power struggles.

    Nobody's doubting they weren't strong and didn't control alot of areas but they were NOT an empire. They were an empire in the way that holy Roman empire was in that they weren't one at all.

    The list is 🤬 . Don't say top 10 empires and then not but empires.

    It's all pathetic, there has never been an empire to take over the whole world or even close to it, even if it is the "known world" except the British empire. Other than 1 all of the others are conjectures and the reality of the empires were brittle at best.
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    My 🤬 how did the Mongolians have a legit empire if it broke down as soon as genhis khan son broke diwn? How is it an empire if individual khans have more power then the supposed emperor. How is it an empire if it's was spilt between khanates for the majority of its history. And on top of that the few times they were actually "united" it always ended in violent power struggles.

    Nobody's doubting they weren't strong and didn't control alot of areas but they were NOT an empire. They were an empire in the way that holy Roman empire was in that they weren't one at all.

    The list is 🤬 . Don't say top 10 empires and then not but empires.

    It's all pathetic, there has never been an empire to take over the whole world or even close to it, even if it is the "known world" except the British empire. Other than 1 all of the others are conjectures and the reality of the empires were brittle at best.

    Which is what I'm saying. Britain is probably the only one who really made a push to conquer everything and if it was able to keep america then they might have actually succeeded. To a lesser extent Roman Empire but they had no desire to rule over other. They saw all lands outside of their own as barbaric and savage.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    My 🤬 how did the Mongolians have a legit empire if it broke down as soon as genhis khan son died? How is it an empire if individual khans have more power then the supposed emperor. How is it an empire if it's was spilt between khanates for the majority of its history. And on top of that the few times they were actually "united" it always ended in violent power struggles.

    Nobody's doubting they weren't strong and didn't control alot of areas but they were NOT an empire. They were an empire in the way that holy Roman empire was in that they weren't one at all.

    The list is 🤬 . Don't say top 10 empires and then not put empires.

    Terrible post man.......

    Historians mostly agree the Mongols had an empire, even after Genghis Khan's death. I'll take the word of hundreds and thousands of historians over little old you.

    Historians from all over the world agree the Mongols had an empire, yes it was fractured after Genghis Khan's death but to say the Mongols didn't have an empire is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on the internet.

    http://asianhistory.about.com/od/Genghis_and_Mongols/ss/The-Mongol-Empire.htm

    Between 1206 and 1368, an obscure group of Central Asian nomads exploded across the steppes and established the world's largest contiguous empire in history - the Mongol Empire.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Historians>>>>>>>amateurs on the internet lol
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From another history site.....

    http://www.allabouthistory.org/mongol-empire.htm

    Mongol Empire

    The Mongol Empire was founded by Genghis Khan, a Mongol political and military leader who sometimes brutally conquered and united the Mongol tribes. Between AD 1206, when Temujin received his title as Genghis Khan (“Ruler”), and AD 1370, when the last emperor in China’s Yuan Dynasty died in exile, the Mongol “Khagan” (“Great Khans” or “Emperors”) established the largest contiguous empire in world history.

    At its height, the Mongol Empire covered large parts of modern-day China, Mongolia, Russia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Moldova, South Korea, North Korea, and Kuwait. After the death of Genghis Khan in 1227, the Mongol Empire grew even larger under his son, Tushi, and grandson, Kublai Khan, who established the Yuan Dynasty in China through at least 22 legitimate sons.


    --Only an amateur would say the Mongols didn't have a legit empire, Genghis Khan's relatives and associates held onto much of the empire and lands they held......smh at 🤬 trying to change history, the 🤬 nerve.
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    How about you actually use critical thinking instead of following what you hear. For someone who is anti christian it's crazy you believe everything online. So how is a destabilized state an empire? By the very definition a destabilized power with no CENTRAL AUTHORITY cannot be an empire. Stay uneducated. Nobody changing history you simply lack knowledge of history, you lack knowledge of words and the meaning of words, most importantly you lack basic reading skills. Noone debated that they held power. Just that a destabilized state with no central authority is the literally opposite of the definition of an empire.
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    How can a state that was constantly involved in power struggles be an empire? How can a state in which the khanates(since ik you don't know what that is basically refers to them as lords) have more power then the actual head of state be an empire? They were strong yes, they controlled alot of landmass yes, they weren't an empire.

    Pick up a book for once and stop the simple Google searches
  • The_Jackal
    The_Jackal Members Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bout to gave my bachelor in early western civilizations so get that amateur shot out here