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Jay Z & TIDAL Sued For $5 Million Lawsuit Over Failing To Pay Artist Royalties...

stringer bell
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edited February 2016 in The Reason
http://thejasminebrand.com/2016/02/29/jay-z-tidal-hit-with-class-action-lawsuit-exclusive/
Jay Z and his streaming service company TIDAL hit with lawsuit over copyright infringement and underpayment of royalties.The Jasmine Brand reports that musician John Emanuele from the band, the American Dollar and Yesh Music LLC has filed a $5 million lawsuit against Jay Z's S. Carter Enterprises and two other companies behind TIDAL due to what he claims is copyright infringement and underpayment of royalties.

According to Emanuele, TIDAL is illegally profiting off of artists' work by adding music from independent artists without licensing or receiving authorization from those artists.

“Ironically, when Defendant Carter purchased the Tidal Music Service in 2015, it claimed it would be the first streaming service to pay the artists. Different owner, same game,” Emanuele said, according to The Jasmine Brand.

Additionally, Emanuele claims that TIDAL underpaid royalties and has not provided artists with monthly accounting reports. The $5 million Emanuele and his company, Yesh Music LLC are suing Jay Z and TIDAL for stems from the $150,000 they're seeking in damages per infringement. Check out the full legal document which was uploaded online to the Scribd site here.

Smh @ myself.. The Jigga Warriors had me convinced the Jay was doing all of this out kindness of his heart.. That this was all about him helping out of artists make their money and get paid their worth.. Silly me...
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  • rapmusic
    rapmusic Members Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.
  • StoneColdMikey
    StoneColdMikey mikeyismod CHITOWN THE BEST TOWNMembers, Moderators Posts: 33,543 Regulator
    Title is very misleading
  • Thereal_ba
    Thereal_ba Members Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.

    Its simple like leasing, you don't pay that monthly bill you don't get any music.
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.

    I think somebody's gonna make a fool of the entire music industry by making an album that you have to buy in stores.

    I know you can't get Prince's music online. He doesn't let Youtube or any of the file sharing/bit torrent sites share his music. He hires a staff of people (probably just 5 people who take turns) to surf the internet and make sure nobody is uploading his music. If you want to get a Prince album you have to go to the store and buy it, or go to one of his concerts.

    I think if I was a famous musician I'd do the same thing. I'd hire a staff of people to surf the internet and 🤬 anybody who's trying to upload or share my music. I'd give em a virus. I'd hire a really 🤬 computer geek to send viruses and worms to anybody sharing my music and tell people to go to the store or order the CD from Amazon. If you think about it a physical copy of the CD>>> a mp3 file. Anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot.
  • buttuh_b
    buttuh_b Members Posts: 13,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.

    I think somebody's gonna make a fool of the entire music industry by making an album that you have to buy in stores.

    I know you can't get Prince's music online. He doesn't let Youtube or any of the file sharing/bit torrent sites share his music. He hires a staff of people (probably just 5 people who take turns) to surf the internet and make sure nobody is uploading his music. If you want to get a Prince album you have to go to the store and buy it, or go to one of his concerts.

    I think if I was a famous musician I'd do the same thing. I'd hire a staff of people to surf the internet and 🤬 anybody who's trying to upload or share my music. I'd give em a virus. I'd hire a really 🤬 computer geek to send viruses and worms to anybody sharing my music and tell people to go to the store or order the CD from Amazon. If you think about it a physical copy of the CD>>> a mp3 file. Anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

    Every time I download a new Rihanna album her people always getting at me about copyright infringement. Also happened to me with Future a couple years
  • anduin
    anduin Members Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you must not know about torrents cause I just found the entire ~8gb Prince discography in like 30 seconds, all these artists do by taking themselves out of the new mediums like youtube or spotify is harm their brand and slowly fade into irrelevance as the new generations aren't exposed to them.
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY King of Myself Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.

    because you can carry around a massive library of music without using up storage on your phone or carrying around a 🤬 load of cds grandpa

    Physical storage >>>>>>>>>>>> data usage
  • StoneColdMikey
    StoneColdMikey mikeyismod CHITOWN THE BEST TOWNMembers, Moderators Posts: 33,543 Regulator
    Physical albums are now minority , they'll be obsolete soon
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anduin wrote: »
    you must not know about torrents cause I just found the entire ~8gb Prince discography in like 30 seconds, all these artists do by taking themselves out of the new mediums like youtube or spotify is harm their brand and slowly fade into irrelevance as the new generations aren't exposed to them.

    wrong.

    Good music never fades.
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY King of Myself Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Physical albums are now minority , they'll be obsolete soon

    I was referring mp3, m4a, etc.
  • Elzo69Renaissance
    Elzo69Renaissance Never selling dreams, always serving cream SeattleMembers Posts: 50,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anduin wrote: »
    you must not know about torrents cause I just found the entire ~8gb Prince discography in like 30 seconds, all these artists do by taking themselves out of the new mediums like youtube or spotify is harm their brand and slowly fade into irrelevance as the new generations aren't exposed to them.
    askl Adele how she doing
  • Already Home_17
    Already Home_17 Members Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.

    🤬 ....what?

    its unbelievable how people have such an issue with buying music. like they get offended at the thought of it. yall got the game backwards. you actually think music is supposed to be free

    why not support what you like? music, movies, products, clothing and etc.
  • supergangster
    supergangster Members Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was laughin at this when I had a cup of tea at the coffeeshop after the math today
  • MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14
    MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 Members Posts: 15,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2016
    Physical albums are now minority , they'll be obsolete soon

    Reduced in numbers yes but not obsolete

    They have been saying that for 15 years. But as long as they have release day in store signings they will have physical albums. Not to mention in Indie rock and rock genres they are still releasing Vinyl's.

    While not as much in hip hop 20 somethings across the country are buying record players and buying records. Maybe in small genre specific instances but they are part of this current generation.

    Add to all of this the value of a CD/tape/record in mint condition or good condition to collectors.
  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.

    I think somebody's gonna make a fool of the entire music industry by making an album that you have to buy in stores.

    I know you can't get Prince's music online. He doesn't let Youtube or any of the file sharing/bit torrent sites share his music. He hires a staff of people (probably just 5 people who take turns) to surf the internet and make sure nobody is uploading his music. If you want to get a Prince album you have to go to the store and buy it, or go to one of his concerts.

    I think if I was a famous musician I'd do the same thing. I'd hire a staff of people to surf the internet and 🤬 anybody who's trying to upload or share my music. I'd give em a virus. I'd hire a really 🤬 computer geek to send viruses and worms to anybody sharing my music and tell people to go to the store or order the CD from Amazon. If you think about it a physical copy of the CD>>> a mp3 file. Anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

    Easy to do when you're Prince and have a collection of some of the greatest music ever. If you aren't, you need 🤬 listenin' to you in any/every way available.

  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Streamin' >>>>>>> 🤬 not buyin' your CDs.
  • Preach2Teach
    Preach2Teach I can't swim but my soul wont drown. Members Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you buy a CD you OWN the music, when you stream you rent that 🤬 , If you have a power cut you are 🤬 but not me oh no I have old Ipods and a new Sony Walkman fully juiced and ready to roll haha do not put too much faith in the computers, for example I had a 2TB hard drive with about 100 gig of music, then one day it just stopped 🤬 working, I lost a lot that day, made me think about how I store my family pictures and porn.
  • StoneColdMikey
    StoneColdMikey mikeyismod CHITOWN THE BEST TOWNMembers, Moderators Posts: 33,543 Regulator
    Y'all acting like y'all not able to save these albums lol . Every streaming site gives you the option to download the song /album
  • rapmusic
    rapmusic Members Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2016
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Still don't get how these streaming services are supposed to be so much better than buying cds and mp3's or whatever. It's basically a legal version of illegal dowloading lol, It's like buying a 10 dollar pack of blank cds every month to download any album you want.

    because you can carry around a massive library of music without using up storage on your phone or carrying around a 🤬 load of cds grandpa
    That's cool and all, but your favorite artist is still getting 🤬 . BTW I'm not saying just buy the cds, I'm saying wtf happened to just buying the physical cd OR buying the mp3's? BTW this grandpa has the ability to plug a flash drive into his car and listen to music that way. I'm not walking around with cds in my pockets young man lol.
  • rapmusic
    rapmusic Members Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And I don't care about the services, I'm just saying it's not much better. If streaming was so much better, you wouldn't have artists lobbying to remove their 🤬 from them. People claim to care about the artists right? You got singers mad at Adele for selling millions of albums quickly and 🤬 .. Yes Adele is somehow selling PHYSICAL ALBUMS in this climate. I use spotify and my initial post came to my mind one day recently. I was like I wonder how most of these artists feel about people having full access to their music like that on the first day that it comes out. I mean at least you get to weed out the good from the wack albums, but it ain't like 🤬 are going out to buy them 🤬 .
  • buttuh_b
    buttuh_b Members Posts: 13,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you buy a CD you OWN the music, when you stream you rent that 🤬 , If you have a power cut you are 🤬 but not me oh no I have old Ipods and a new Sony Walkman fully juiced and ready to roll haha do not put too much faith in the computers, for example I had a 2TB hard drive with about 100 gig of music, then one day it just stopped 🤬 working, I lost a lot that day, made me think about how I store my family pictures and porn.

    That's why I back my 🤬 up in hella places