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  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »

    You learn to read.

    I said they were influenced by not copied totally.

    You said Jah is not Hindi. Nobody
    Said that. Again, reading is fundamental.

    Read what you quoted. I said jah is not hindi because what you quoted alluded to people replacing words/using hindi words.

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    It says Jah is phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai
    Not that Jah is a Hindi word.
    You said Jah is not a Hindi word
    But nobody said it was.

    Read all of what you quoted 🤬 you are being blatantly dishonest.
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    Your other source get it's information from an east Indian author therefore it's biased

    Where is the bias being shown?

    Before you answer, look at the definition of the word bias
    Because I don't think you know what the word means.
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    zzombie wrote: »
    Read all of what you quoted 🤬 you are being blatantly dishonest.

    It says exactly what I said it does.
    it obviously isn't registering for you yet.
    zzombie wrote: »
    No jamaicans or even other west indian people on this forum agree with you and Rastafarianism is part of our culture so we are the most qualified to speak on it. Not some African American Buddhist who has never been to Jamaican or been to a groundation.

    I don't know ya'll.
    Nor do I care about what's popular.
    Neither you nor anyone else has said anything
    To discredit what's been said so I guess
    We can leave it at that until it happens.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Your other source get it's information from an east Indian author therefore it's biased

    Where is the bias being shown?

    Before you answer, look at the definition of the word bias
    Because I don't think you know what the word means.

    You don't understand the cultural friction between blacks and coolies in the west Indies of course a coolie is going to claim they influenced something they had next to nothing to do with because they favor their group and look down on blacks especially the coolies of mansingh generation.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Read all of what you quoted 🤬 you are being blatantly dishonest.

    It says exactly what I said it does.
    it obviously isn't registering for you yet.
    zzombie wrote: »
    No jamaicans or even other west indian people on this forum agree with you and Rastafarianism is part of our culture so we are the most qualified to speak on it. Not some African American Buddhist who has never been to Jamaican or been to a groundation.

    I don't know ya'll.
    Nor do I care about what's popular.
    Neither you nor anyone else has said anything
    To discredit what's been said so I guess
    We can leave it at that until it happens.

    I discredited your 🤬 long ago and I wasn't the only one. What hasn't registered to you yet is the meaning of the word alluded
  • Turfaholic
    Turfaholic It's not too complicated, but you're gonna need a bulletproof soul The Bay 2 Sin CityMembers Posts: 20,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Antlerz wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    What's up with the golden lord in the ninja turtle trench coat?

    He's out here with the high top like Jaws from the Burger King Kids Club


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    Burger King fell off. These 🤬 was GOAT. I joined they club and got hella stickers & crayons and 🤬 for 3 months.
  • Copper
    Copper The WickMembers Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    Be my guest

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  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Your other source get it's information from an east Indian author therefore it's biased

    Where is the bias being shown?

    Before you answer, look at the definition of the word bias
    Because I don't think you know what the word means.

    You don't understand the cultural friction between blacks and coolies in the west Indies of course a coolie is going to claim they influenced something they had next to nothing to do with because they favor their group and look down on blacks especially the coolies of mansingh generation.


    Everything isn't always black and white.
    Why did a black man adopt a Hindu name?

    besides, Mansingh isn't the only one who said what he did.

    Joseph Hibbert, another founding father of Rastafari, acknowledged the Hindu influence on Leonard Howell in an interview with Leonard Howell’s biographer Helene Lee.
    http://thyblackman.com/2016/01/11/indian-influence-on-jamaican-culture-and-growth-of-rastafari/
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    What hasn't registered to you yet is the meaning of the word alluded

    It means to make an indirect reference (to something)
    What here is being indirectly referenced?

    All you did was misread.
    Nowhere did it say Jah is a Hindi word.
    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt
    And assume you're trolling
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some Chinese people have English names it just means they like the name.

    An influence on one man doesn't translate to the whole movement because in the first place Joseph hibbert didn't create Rasta.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    What hasn't registered to you yet is the meaning of the word alluded

    It means to make an indirect reference (to something)
    What here is being indirectly referenced?

    All you did was misread.
    Nowhere did it say Jah is a Hindi word.
    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt
    And assume you're trolling

    You cannot be this 🤬 dense
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    Some Chinese people have English names it just means they like the name.

    An influence on one man doesn't translate to the whole movement because in the first place Joseph hibbert didn't create Rasta.

    Lol Chinese take on English names
    For practicality's sake.
    This is a tad different.
    Howell adopting that name was clearly
    More than that.

    Joseph Hibbert, though,
    Was a founding father of the movement.
    He acknowledged the influence on Howell,
    Who played a major part in the development
    Of Rastafari. So who am I to believe?
    Hibbert, or you?
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    What hasn't registered to you yet is the meaning of the word alluded

    It means to make an indirect reference (to something)
    What here is being indirectly referenced?

    All you did was misread.
    Nowhere did it say Jah is a Hindi word.
    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt
    And assume you're trolling

    You cannot be this 🤬 dense

    I'm thinking the same.
    How about you explain what you mean?
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Some Chinese people have English names it just means they like the name.

    An influence on one man doesn't translate to the whole movement because in the first place Joseph hibbert didn't create Rasta.

    Lol Chinese take on English names
    For practicality's sake.
    This is a tad different.
    Howell adopting that name was clearly
    More than that.

    Joseph Hibbert, though,
    Was a founding father of the movement.
    He acknowledged the influence on Howell,
    Who played a major part in the development
    Of Rastafari. So who am I to believe?
    Hibbert, or you?

    Hibbert didn't create Rasta and one man talking a nickname doesn't mean anything the actual theology of rasta has nothing to do with Hinduism
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you quote something and don't understand the implications of what it is saying then I cannot help you
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    Hibbert didn't create Rasta

    I didn't say he did.
    I said he was a founding father of the movement.
    A founding father doesn't necessarily create.
    zzombie wrote: »
    one man talking a nickname doesn't mean anything

    Seems as if it does.


  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    zzombie wrote: »
    If you quote something and don't understand the implications of what it is saying then I cannot help you

    In other words, you can't
    Because you don't know what
    You're talking about.

    I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with
    Someone who doesn't even understand
    The words they're using.
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Hibbert didn't create Rasta

    I didn't say he did.
    I said he was a founding father of the movement.
    A founding father doesn't necessarily create.
    zzombie wrote: »
    one man talking a nickname doesn't mean anything

    Seems as if it does.


    It seems that way to you and no one else .

    if hibbert didn't create any of the sects of rasta which you admit then what his nickname was is irrelevant to rasta
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    If you quote something and don't understand the implications of what it is saying then I cannot help you

    In other words, you can't
    Because you don't know what
    You're talking about.

    I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with
    Someone who doesn't even understand
    The words they're using.

    You didn't understand what you quoted and are too cowardly to admit it
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »
    if hibbert didn't create any of the sects of rasta which you admit then what his nickname was is irrelevant to rasta

    Hibbert is not Howell.
    You're confusing the two.
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    zzombie wrote: »

    You didn't understand what you quoted and are too cowardly to admit it


    Okay...
    Bodhi wrote: »
    The Mansingh studies have enumerated Howell's innumerable borrowings
    from the Indians --- his name Gangunguru Maragh
    (from gyan, knowledge; guna, virtue; guru, teacher; and Maharadj,
    King); his prayers' use of Hindi words; his concept of a 🤬 -King;
    the sacramental use of 🤬 , meditation, vegetarian cooking and
    spices, and even the holy salutation --- 'Jah! Rastafari!'

    One can hear the loud chants of Jai Bhagwan, Jai Rama, Jai
    Krishna, or Jai Kali (victory to 🤬 /Rama/Krishna/Kali) at any
    private or community Hindu Pooja or prayer meeting...As Ras
    Tafari gained the status of African Lord Rama/Krishna during
    the 1940s, phonetic usage of the word Jai was continued. But
    Rama, Krishna and Kali were replaced by Ras Tafari. Searching
    the Old Testament...the Rastas found the word Jah, which is
    phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai.

    Howell not only borrowed some exotic words and rituals
    from the Indians to feed the fancies of an illiterate audience, he also
    adopted a way of thinking. Indian thought --- karma and rebirth---
    provided him with a system that resolved the western dichotomy of
    heaven and hell, Jesus and Satan, black and white, spirit and flesh.



    I've bolded ^^ where you misread..

    zzombie wrote: »
    Jah is not hindi jah is from the bible.


    What you (supposedly) read says that Jah is phonetically similar to a Hindi word,
    Not that it is a Hindi word.
    And it says that the word Jah is from the Old Testament.
    So it's clear to me that you misread and thought that it said
    Jah is a Hindi word. It didn't
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    if hibbert didn't create any of the sects of rasta which you admit then what his nickname was is irrelevant to rasta

    Hibbert is not Howell.
    You're confusing the two.

    If really doesn't even matter neither of them injected Hinduism into rasta and there is no proof that they did. The only thing you have done is prove they knew about other religions and had nicknames
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zzombie wrote: »

    If really doesn't even matter

    LOL there you go misreading again....
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bodhi wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »

    You didn't understand what you quoted and are too cowardly to admit it


    Okay...
    Bodhi wrote: »
    The Mansingh studies have enumerated Howell's innumerable borrowings
    from the Indians --- his name Gangunguru Maragh
    (from gyan, knowledge; guna, virtue; guru, teacher; and Maharadj,
    King); his prayers' use of Hindi words; his concept of a 🤬 -King;
    the sacramental use of 🤬 , meditation, vegetarian cooking and
    spices, and even the holy salutation --- 'Jah! Rastafari!'

    One can hear the loud chants of Jai Bhagwan, Jai Rama, Jai
    Krishna, or Jai Kali (victory to 🤬 /Rama/Krishna/Kali) at any
    private or community Hindu Pooja or prayer meeting...As Ras
    Tafari gained the status of African Lord Rama/Krishna during
    the 1940s, phonetic usage of the word Jai was continued. But
    Rama, Krishna and Kali were replaced by Ras Tafari. Searching
    the Old Testament...the Rastas found the word Jah, which is
    phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai.

    Howell not only borrowed some exotic words and rituals
    from the Indians to feed the fancies of an illiterate audience, he also
    adopted a way of thinking. Indian thought --- karma and rebirth---
    provided him with a system that resolved the western dichotomy of
    heaven and hell, Jesus and Satan, black and white, spirit and flesh.



    I've bolded ^^ where you misread..

    zzombie wrote: »
    Jah is not hindi jah is from the bible.


    What you (supposedly) read says that Jah is phonetically similar to a Hindi word,
    Not that it is a Hindi word.
    And it says that the word Jah is from the Old Testament.
    So it's clear to me that you misread and thought that it said
    Jah is a Hindi word. It didn't

    You alluded to jah Rastafar I being a replacement for Hindu gods.
  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2016
    zzombie wrote: »

    You alluded to jah Rastafar I being a replacement for Hindu gods.

    Okay, that has nothing to do
    With your original statement.

    You said Jah is not a Hindi word.
    Of course it isn't. Please bold
    Where someone said that it is.
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