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Pete Rock defends ole heads in music and explains why newer artist music don’t get no respect ...

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  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Matike85 wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    I hate to break it to you but Tupac was just one guy with his own personal opinion (who happened to be in his feelings about De La Soul at the time since he thought they were 🤬 on him).

    De La just did a world tour and released a grammy nominated album.
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    Bruh, De La was still droppin heat in 2000.

    Art_Official_Intelligence_Mosaic_Thump.jpg

    AOI: Mosaic Thump debuted at #9 on Billboard in 2000.



    "Oooh" was a hit song. 🤬 stayed in radio and video rotation back then.


    🤬 what Pack was talmbout.
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    And they still around, where Tupac at? 🤬 De La here this month and the show is sold out
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    Its unbelievable how 2Pac stans can turn a Pete Rock thread into a 2Pac thread.

    B...b...but if Pac lived he would have started Death Row East with Eric B and they would have taken over the East coast.

    This confirm yall East Coast Bias... West Coast, Down South, MidWest 🤬 ... Did not give AF about De La Soul in 1996...
    Do or Die, OutKast, Master P, and 2Pac had more impact albums in 96 than De la Soul...Po 🤬 , Atliens, Ice Cream Man, All Eyes on Me, & Makaveli had stronger impact on the streets than De La Soul Stakes Is High Album in 96... New York 🤬 like Pete Rock stay hating... Typical Crab Ass East Coast 🤬 Mentality

    Speak on 🤬 you know about bruh. I'm FROM THE MIDWEST. We was knockin De La Soul all day long in Tha D. At the same time we were banging Outkast, pretty much anything from Oakland and LA, Houston 🤬 , and Memphis 🤬 .

    But that wasn't the point of my post. If you actually took the time to READ and COMPREHEND 🤬 , you would UNDERSTAND that the point was that, as I said earlier, there were cats from the 80's that were still droppin hot albums throughout the 90's and into the 2000's. The album I pointed out dropped in 2000 and debuted in the Billboard Top 10 and the single and video got a lot of video and radio play.

    In '96 the video for "Stakes Is High" was gettin burn on radio and especially video rotation. That video alone stayed in the Rap City countdown for weeks.

    Do or Die Po 🤬 Album > De La Soul Stakes Is High in 1996
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  • natural born sinners
    natural born sinners Members Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lefty_ wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Lefty_ wrote: »
    🤬 want to talk integrity, the reason that everyone had artistic integrity back then is because the A&r said you had to be nice. YouTube is the A&r today, and guess what the people who pay for the music would rather you have a story then be nice on the mic in a lot of cases. Either that or do something different to set yourself apart, because everybody wants to be different and be in their own lane so that’s why a lot of these kids are doing.

    From that era to now the fundamental question has changed from can you spit to are you real.

    Like I said, let the little homies rock, they are navigating the landscape as best they can. And to keep it real they didn’t get out of control because they were born that way.

    And I wouldn’t even say that they are out of control, I see a lot more kids in decent situations today then there were when I was young.

    But for the sake of argument. If you want to see why a crop is dead, don’t blame the corn, blame the farmers.

    In this analogy they are the farmers though and the crop is the music.

    And to take that analogy a step further... let's say you have a new generation of farmers that have no interest in learning how the work is actually done because it's just too difficult and boring. They just cop their little Monsanto pesticides and dump it on the field and call it day. What kind of crop can you really expect them to yield and is it really anybody else's fault that they suck at their job?

    What generation raised these lil 🤬 ?

    Wayne n Kanye birth these 🤬
  • natural born sinners
    natural born sinners Members Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    Come on man. Pac basically dissed everybody. Btw, the fact that this thread took a agricultural turn is hilarious for some reason.
  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    Come on man. Pac basically dissed everybody. Btw, the fact that this thread took a agricultural turn is hilarious for some reason.

    Somebody tag @gee757 to school these hating ass old 🤬 ..lol
  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    And they still around, where Tupac at? 🤬 De La here this month and the show is sold out

    Tupac Is Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Now...🤬 De La Soul .Flower Kids Fruity Ass They gave birth to 🤬 Like Drake

    17wftax2d000.jpg

  • a_list
    a_list Members Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Think Pete focusing a lil too much on this bs...Dude put in too much work to be worried about these new 🤬 ...🤬 is different now, its not art for most of these cats its a hustle...



    De La Soul been doin world tours...lol...🤬 trippn
  •   Colin$mackabi$h
    Colin$mackabi$h Smartass Snatch Money ave.Members Posts: 16,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What old head needed defending before this?
  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    And they still around, where Tupac at? 🤬 De La here this month and the show is sold out

    Tupac Is Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Now...🤬 De La Soul .Flower Kids Fruity Ass They gave birth to 🤬 Like Drake

    17wftax2d000.jpg



    Meanwhile Pac is pushing up actual daisies.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    And people know Tupac as Arguably the Greatest Rapper of All Times... De la Soul are not even discussion for Top 5 best rap groups.
  • Ear2DaSt
    Ear2DaSt STREET MILITARY till Infinity !!!! Members Posts: 10,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Waka should of said something different even tho he was disrespected .........
  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    And they still around, where Tupac at? 🤬 De La here this month and the show is sold out

    Tupac Is Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Now...🤬 De La Soul .Flower Kids Fruity Ass They gave birth to 🤬 Like Drake

    17wftax2d000.jpg



    Meanwhile Pac is pushing up actual daisies.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    🤬 are ruthless

    Eazy E was ruthless not these Corny Lame Ass 🤬 that y'all like to listen too...

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  • infamous114
    infamous114 Down in Miami where it's warm in the winter. Members, Moderators Posts: 52,202 Regulator
    You listen to Eminem though.
  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    You listen to Eminem though.

    And you grew up on Vanilla Ice and still listen to Flo-Rida Fist Pumping ass 🤬 ...#305 #786
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meester wrote: »
    What old head needed defending before this?

    This is the 🤬 I don't understand. These older cats are always whining about the young dudes being disrespectful. I don't see that. I believe the young dudes are largely indifferent to what came before them, and I can see why some would say that's problematic. But they aren't the ones being disrespectful. It's the older cats that are always attacking and insulting. As someone who 🤬 on the new school rappers whenever I get the chance, I can't attest to the fact that we're the ones going at them, not the other way around.
  • infamous114
    infamous114 Down in Miami where it's warm in the winter. Members, Moderators Posts: 52,202 Regulator
    Matike85 wrote: »
    You listen to Eminem though.

    And you grew up on Vanilla Ice and still listen to Flo-Rida Fist Pumping ass 🤬 ...#305 #786

    Wrong and unfunny. Try again, buddy
  • freethewave
    freethewave Members Posts: 3,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What do people mean when they say young rappers don't respect the game or the pioneers? Like what do you want them to do?
  • freethewave
    freethewave Members Posts: 3,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    You listen to Eminem though.

    You don't think Em nice on the mic?
  • SneakDZA
    SneakDZA damn, am I a sinner? Members Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What do people mean when they say young rappers don't respect the game or the pioneers? Like what do you want them to do?

    Don't be trash on the mic is pretty much the only request. It's really not too much to ask.
  • nujerz84
    nujerz84 NJMembers Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Waka Flocka is Trash Pete Rock is Legendary Producer. Pete Rock wins.
  • king hassan
    king hassan south side somewhereMembers Posts: 22,737 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Matike85 wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    I hate to break it to you but Tupac was just one guy with his own personal opinion (who happened to be in his feelings about De La Soul at the time since he thought they were 🤬 on him).

    De La just did a world tour and released a grammy nominated album.
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    Bruh, De La was still droppin heat in 2000.

    Art_Official_Intelligence_Mosaic_Thump.jpg

    AOI: Mosaic Thump debuted at #9 on Billboard in 2000.



    "Oooh" was a hit song. 🤬 stayed in radio and video rotation back then.


    🤬 what Pack was talmbout.
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    And they still around, where Tupac at? 🤬 De La here this month and the show is sold out
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    my question to Pete would be instead of talking 🤬 why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

    You can say the same about these new 🤬 too

    These young 🤬 don't be bothering nobody!

    Yes they do, come on bro you know better

    Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and 🤬 . Like you don't think 🤬 in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

    Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

    But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " 🤬 Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my 🤬 " ...
    De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

    aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

    Its unbelievable how 2Pac stans can turn a Pete Rock thread into a 2Pac thread.

    B...b...but if Pac lived he would have started Death Row East with Eric B and they would have taken over the East coast.

    This confirm yall East Coast Bias... West Coast, Down South, MidWest 🤬 ... Did not give AF about De La Soul in 1996...
    Do or Die, OutKast, Master P, and 2Pac had more impact albums in 96 than De la Soul...Po 🤬 , Atliens, Ice Cream Man, All Eyes on Me, & Makaveli had stronger impact on the streets than De La Soul Stakes Is High Album in 96... New York 🤬 like Pete Rock stay hating... Typical Crab Ass East Coast 🤬 Mentality

    I'm going to take a wild guess and by your screen name you were born in 1985, which means you were 11 in 1996, so this post means you don't know what you talking about

    Aye, don't group us 85ers with that 🤬 idiot.

    LOL my bad bro, actually my nephew was born in 84 and he knows all music as well, daps to you
  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker PISTOL GRIP PUMP IN MY LAP AT ALL TIMES Working On My LowriderMembers, Moderators Posts: 45,690 Regulator
    I got older heads in my family that's 5 Grand's age. All them 🤬 used to say is;

    "That snoop froggy dogg, that wu tang 🤬 , that 🤬 the police 🤬 , that aint hip hop. Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, Big Daddy Kane, that was music. These new 🤬 2pac and Biggie and them. That aint music."

    Its a cycle. Let the kids have their day. Like @Lefty_ said, there's a lot off good 🤬 still being dropped.
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