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🤬 trial falls apart after accuser’s 40,000 texts are revealed

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https://nypost.com/2017/12/16/🤬 -trial-falls-apart-after-accusers-40000-texts-are-revealed/

A student has described going through “mental torture” after a 🤬 case against him was thrown out in court because police had failed to hand over more than 40,000 messages from his accuser.

Liam Allan, 22, faced up to ten years in jail charged with six counts of 🤬 and six counts of sexual assault against a young woman over a 14-month period that began when he was 19.

The criminology student at Greenwich University had spent nearly two years on bail and three days in Croydon Crown Court when the trial was stopped in a dramatic fashion after it emerged police officers had failed to hand over evidence that proved his innocence.

The alleged victim had claimed she did not enjoy sex, while Mr Allan claimed it was consensual and she was acting maliciously because he refused to see her after he returned to university.

Now, the judge has called for an inquiry at the “very highest level” to understand why police failed to hand over critical evidence including 40,000 messages from the accuser to Mr Allan and friends.

The messages showed how she had continually messaged Mr Allan for “casual sex”, said how much she enjoyed it and discussed fantasies of violent sex and 🤬 , The Times reports.

Outside the court, Mr Allan said he went through “mental torture” over the two year period and relied on the system to uncover evidence that would exonerate him.

When first accused, he turned to a local lawyer he had done work experience with and said he was terrified at the idea of going to prison with sex offenders and worried about what would happen to his mum and flatmates when he was away.

“You are all on your own. I could not talk to my mother about the details of the case because she might have been called as a witness. I couldn’t talk with my friends because they might have been called. I felt completely isolated at every stage of the process,” he said.

“I can’t explain the mental torture of the past two years. … I feel betrayed by the system which I had believed would do the right thing, the system I want to work in.”

The life-changing discovery was made at the 11th hour when a new prosecutor, Jerry Hayes, took over the case one day before the trial began and ordered police to hand over records — including a computer disk that contained 40,000 messages.

Mr Allan’s lawyers had already sought access to the accusers’s telephone records and messages but their requests were denied on the basis there was nothing of interest in them.

Upon discovering the messages, Mr Hayes said he would offer no evidence in court and would like to “apologise” to Mr Allan.

“There was a terrible failure in disclosure which was inexcusable,” he said. “There could have been a serious miscarriage of justice, which could have led to a very significant period of imprisonment and life on the sex offenders register. It appears the officer in the case has not reviewed the disk, which is quite appalling.”

Speaking later, he said detectives had previously told him the sexual messages were “too personal” to share.

“The defence quickly saw the information blew the prosecution out of the water. If they had not been seen this boy faced 12 years in prison and on the sex offenders’ register for life with little chance of appeal. This was a massive miscarriage of justice, which thank heavens was avoided,” he told the BBC.

Judge Peter Gower said Mr Allan was not guilty on all charges.

“There is something that has gone wrong and it is a matter that the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) in my judgment should be considering at the very highest level,” he said.

“Mr Allan leaves the courtroom an innocent man without a stain on his character.”

Mr Allan’s defence lawyer Julia Smart said she also received details about the text messages the night before she was due to cross examine the accuser, and when she told the court of her findings the trial was scrapped.

Mr Allan’s mum, Lorraine Allan, 46, said the “current climate” means that many people are treated as “guilty until you can prove you’re innocent.”

A spokesman for London Metropolitan Police said: “We are aware of this case being dismissed from court and are carrying out an urgent assessment to establish the circumstances which led to this action being taken.

“We are working closely with the Crown Prosecution Service and keeping in close contact with the victim while this process takes place.”

The Crown Prosecution Service said they will not conduct a “management review” with the Metropolitian Police to “examine the way in which the case was handled.”

Mr Hayes, who is a former Conservative MP, wrote in The Times the case marked the most “appalling failure of disclosure I have ever encountered.”

“The CPS are under terrible pressure, as are the police. Both work hard but are badly under-resourced.

“Crown court trials only work because of the co-operation and goodwill of advocates and the bench — but time pressures are making this increasingly difficult.
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  • LordZuko
    LordZuko Black Ronin A swirling tempest in the midnight sunMembers Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This happens a lot. Not necessarily the 🤬 allegations but the prosecution or police not handing over exculpatory evidence.

    9kbyyx5gpk5a.jpg

    Oh yea the police withhold exonerating evidence frequently for every crime except 🤬 .

    This is vaginally obtuse reasoning.
  • BiblicalAtheist
    BiblicalAtheist Prude FieldsMembers Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LordZuko wrote: »
    This happens a lot. Not necessarily the 🤬 allegations but the prosecution or police not handing over exculpatory evidence.

    9kbyyx5gpk5a.jpg

    Oh yea the police withhold exonerating evidence frequently for every crime except 🤬 .

    This is vaginally obtuse reasoning.

    your obtuse reasoning is pathetic. I didn't say EXCEPT FOR, implying it happens for many crimes. Take your woman hating ass somewhere else. Hope you get banned for antics again.
  • LordZuko
    LordZuko Black Ronin A swirling tempest in the midnight sunMembers Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Females are emotionally manipulative amoral pragmatists.

    If it suits some purpose of theirs to completely 🤬 your life up, they will.

    How many of y'all are or know 🤬 that's been fired from a job because a jilted 🤬 kept showing up at your work causing a scene?

    It's the same mentality.
  • BiblicalAtheist
    BiblicalAtheist Prude FieldsMembers Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can think of any terrible/negative thing about women.... how about list all the great things about them.
  • SneakDZA
    SneakDZA damn, am I a sinner? Members Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CapitalB wrote: »
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    aye @SneakDZA u think this dude deserves to die and hope he burns in hell huh u 🤬 lesbian!?!! lmmfao

    Did he get accused by 40 different women over the course of decades?




































    p.s. 🤬 you and everybody that clocked lol on that 🤬 .
  • Trollio
    Trollio Trollololololololololol Members Posts: 25,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This 🤬 has been hurt lol
  • BiblicalAtheist
    BiblicalAtheist Prude FieldsMembers Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You and that 🤬 gif.
  • CapitalB
    CapitalB all these dollars.. no sense. Members Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    ig7ocwthfve0.gif
    CapitalB wrote: »
    aye @SneakDZA u think this dude deserves to die and hope he burns in hell huh u 🤬 lesbian!?!! lmmfao

    Did he get accused by 40 different women over the course of decades?




































    p.s. 🤬 you and everybody that clocked lol on that 🤬 .

    LESBIAN!
  • 7figz
    7figz Still don’t nothing move but the money Members Posts: 15,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    "I can't blame the system" tho.

    Wait "Liam" is white... let's blame the system.
  • So ILL
    So ILL Members Posts: 16,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Copper wrote: »
    They can atleast post her name though...

    Dude has had his name posted everywhere 2 years
    They never do that 🤬 for some reason, I hate that 🤬 .
  • So ILL
    So ILL Members Posts: 16,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lol how the 🤬 do you fail to mention 40,000 texts? If that ain't foul then I don't know what it is. They must know the 🤬 personally and don't want her to go down smh.
  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
    LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY SHAPE YOUR REALITY INSIDE WHICH YOU THRIVE Members, Writer Posts: 17,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    Feminists are trying to get past convos between "victim" and accused thrown out or ignored, and have been for several years now.

    In those kangaroo college sexual assault tribunals they successfully got prior intimate contact and text conversation labelled as irrelevant. That stuff is exculpatory evidence.

    There's an understanding is psychology, a theory called "relational aggression." It was found that if you factor in relational aggression in studies of overall aggression that girls are just as aggressive as boys.

    Relational aggression is the preferred bullying tactic for women and girls. It includes typical "mean girls" stuff like spreading rumors, lying about about, cutting them down verbally etc.

    This has gone virtually unnoticed by society, and only physical aggression is policed (the preferred type of bullying for men and boys).

    What this creates is a society where girls can be bullies and get away with it. Words disappear into the ether and leave no bruises, so they can cut people down and lie without recourse.

    This leads to a snowball effect. Because they've been doing it their whole lives and because they know it works, women use relational aggression all the time against men.

    From rather innocuous stuff like saying she didnt enjoy sex, or that his 🤬 is small to severe offenses like lying about abuse or 🤬 to try and ruin his life.

    This stuff has been out there, but feminists have used male chauvinism against men to the point where they get it ignored. A lot of these sexual assault cases are revenge statements. No proof needed, none required. All she needs to do is make a comment in the media and it spreads like wildfire.

    I was talking to my gf about this, and we agreed that the natural next step is lifting the statute of limitations on sexual assault. Its coming. You're going to see that change happen, and people be brought up on 20-30 year old sexual assault cases with no evidence other than the woman's word.

    Feminists are going to turn the judicial system into a mockery, which they've already done. 🤬 need to clique up and fight against this weaponized victimhood culture.

    The boy the OP story was about got lucky, but a lot of men and boys aren't so lucky.

    Its already happening bruh:

    -Male deserts
    - MGTOW
    - SEX ANDROIDS
    - marriage shortage

    And it appears that it wont change.
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Who I am is Complex, What i am, simply put. I'm a Threat walking out the lions denGuests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    LordZuko wrote: »
    Females are emotionally manipulative amoral pragmatists.

    If it suits some purpose of theirs to completely 🤬 your life up, they will.

    How many of y'all are or know 🤬 that's been fired from a job because a jilted 🤬 kept showing up at your work causing a scene?

    It's the same mentality.

    since i am working on this thread as we speak

    #metoobruh
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Who I am is Complex, What i am, simply put. I'm a Threat walking out the lions denGuests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    since 🤬 bringing over other 🤬 from other threads....
    imma do it too.

    i blame lavars parenting