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Proof that Obama is a CIA creation

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Bombshell: Barack Obama conclusively outed as CIA creation


NEWS ALERT: Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen is scheduled to appear live on the Alex Jones Show tomorrow THURSDAY AUGUST 19 at 1 PM EST / 12 NOON CST, to reveal his groundbreaking series on Barack Obama’s true origins. Madsen will share the bombshell revelations and extensive information from the following three articles– and even more that has not yet been revealed. Tell your friends, family and contacts to tune in and learn the truth.

PREFACE

August 18, 2010 "Toniight is a particular honor for me because, let’s face it, my presence on this stage is pretty unlikely. My father was a foreign student, born and raised in a small village in Kenya. He grew up herding goats, went to school in a tin-roof shack. His father — my grandfather — was a cook, a domestic servant to the British. But my grandfather had larger dreams for his son. Through hard work and perseverance my father got a scholarship to study in a magical place, America, that shone as a beacon of freedom and opportunity to so many who had come before.”
- Barack Obama, 2004 Democratic National Convention Keynote Address

Far from being the mere ‘son of a goat herder’ (as he deceptively paraded during and even before his candidacy), strong evidence has emerged that President Barack Obama is the product of the intelligence community. Investigative reporter and former NSA employee Wayne Madsen has put together an extensive three-part (and growing) series with conclusive proof and documentation that Barack Obama Sr., Stanley Ann Dunham, Lolo Soetoro and President Barack Obama himself all hold deep ties to the CIA and larger intelligence community. And that’s just the beginning.

After his election, President Obama quickly moved to seal off his records via an executive order. Now, after two years of hints and clues, there is substantial information to demonstrate that what Obama has omitted is that his rare rise to power can only be explained by his intelligence roots. However, this is more than the story of one man or his family. There is a long-term strategic plan to recruit promising candidates into intelligence and steer these individuals and their families into positions of influence and power. Consider that it is now declassified former British Prime Minister Tony Blair was recruited into MI5 before becoming a labour leader, or that George H. W. Bush not only became CIA director in 1976 but had a deeper past in the organization. While we may never know many pertinent details about these matters, one thing that is certain is that the American people have never been told the truth about who holds the real power, nor who this president– and likely many others– really is. Thus, we urge everyone to read Wayne Madsen’s deep report and seek the truth for yourself.

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The Story of Obama: All in The Company (In Three Parts)

Wayne Madsen
Wayne Madsen Report
August 18, 2010

PART 1: The Story of Obama: All in The Company (Part I)

Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has discovered CIA files that document the agency’s connections to institutions and individuals figuring prominently in the lives of Barack Obama and his mother, father, grandmother, and stepfather. The first part of his report highlights the connections between Barack Obama, Sr. and the CIA-sponsored operations in Kenya to counter rising Soviet and Chinese influence among student circles and, beyond, to create conditions obstructing the emergence of independent African leaders.


From 1983-84, Barack Obama worked as Editor at Business Internation Corporation, a Business International Corporation, a known CIA front company. President Obama’s own work in 1983 for Business International Corporation, a CIA front that conducted seminars with the world’s most powerful leaders and used journalists as agents abroad, dovetails with CIA espionage activities conducted by his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham in 1960s post-coup Indonesia on behalf of a number of CIA front operations, including the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and the Ford Foundation. Dunham met and married Lolo Soetoro, Obama’s stepfather, at the East-West Center in 1965. Soetoro was recalled to Indonesia in 1965 to serve as a senior army officer and assist General Suharto and the CIA in the 🤬 overthrow of President Sukarno.

Barack Obama, Sr., who met Dunham in 1959 in a Russian language class at the University of Hawaii, had been part of what was described as an airlift of 280 East African students to the United States to attend various colleges — merely “aided” by a grant from the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation, according to a September 12, 1960, Reuters report from London. The airlift was a CIA operation to train and indoctrinate future agents of influence in Africa, which was becoming a battleground between the United States and the Soviet Union and China for influence among newly-independent and soon-to-be independent countries on the continent.

The airlift was condemned by the deputy leader of the opposition Kenyan African Democratic Union (KADU) as favoring certain tribes — the majority Kikuyus and minority Luos — over other tribes to favor the Kenyan African National Union (KANU), whose leader was Tom Mboya, the Kenyan nationalist and labor leader who selected Obama, Sr. for a scholarship at the University of Hawaii. Obama, Sr., who was already married with an infant son and pregnant wife in Kenya, married Dunham on Maui on February 2, 1961 and was also the university’s first African student. Dunham was three month’s pregnant with Barack Obama, Jr. at the time of her marriage to Obama, Sr.


The CIA allegedly recruited Tom M’Boya in a heavily funded “selective liberation” programme to isolate Kenya’s founding President Jomo Kenyatta, who the American spy agency labelled as “unsafe.” KADU deputy leader Masinda Muliro, according to Reuters, said KADU would send a delegation to the United States to investigate Kenyan students who received “gifts” from the Americans and “ensure that further gifts to Kenyan students are administered by people genuinely interested in Kenya’s development.’”

Mboya received a $100,000 grant for the airlift from the Kennedy Foundation after he turned down the same offer from the U.S. State Department, obviously concerned that direct U.S. assistance would look suspicious to pro-Communist Kenyan politicians who suspected Mboya of having CIA ties. The Airlift Africa project was underwritten by the Kennedy Foundation and the African-American Students Foundation. Obama, Sr. was not on the first airlift but a subsequent one. The airlift, organized by Mboya in 1959, included students from Kenya, Uganda, Tanganyika, Zanzibar, Northern Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia, and Nyasaland.

Reuters also reported that Muliro charged that Africans were “disturbed and embittered” by the airlift of the selected students. Muliro “stated that “preferences were shown to two major tribes [Kikuyu and Luo] and many U.S.-bound students had failed preliminary and common entrance examinations, while some of those left behind held first-class certificates.”
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  • jazz93jazz93 Members Posts: 362 ✭✭✭
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    Obama, Sr. was a friend of Mboya and a fellow Luo. After Mboya was assassinated in 1969, Obama, Sr. testified at the trial of his alleged assassin. Obama, Sr. claimed he was the target of a hit-and-run assassination attempt after his testimony.


    CIA-airlifted to Hawaii, Barack Obama Sr., with leis, stands with Stanley Dunham, President Obama’s grandfather, on his right. Obama, Sr., who left Hawaii for Harvard in 1962, divorced Dunham in 1964. Obama, Sr. married a fellow Harvard student, Ruth Niedesand, a Jewish-American woman, who moved with him to Kenya and had two sons. They were later divorced. Obama, Sr. worked for the Kenyan Finance and Transport ministries as well as an oil firm. Obama, Sr. died in a 1982 car crash and his funeral was attended by leading Kenyan politicians, including future Foreign Minister Robert Ouko, who was murdered in 1990.

    CIA files indicate that Mboya was an important agent-of-influence for the CIA, not only in Kenya but in all of Africa. A formerly Secret CIA Current Intelligence Weekly Summary, dated November 19, 1959, states that Mboya served as a check on extremists at the second All-African People’s Conference (AAPC) in Tunis. The report states that “serious friction developed between Ghana’s Prime Minister Kwame Nkrumah and Kenyan nationalist Tom Mboya who cooperated effectively last December to check extremists at the AAPC’s first meeting in Accra.” The term “cooperated effectively” appears to indicate that Mboya was cooperating with the CIA, which filed the report from field operatives in Accra and Tunis. While “cooperating” with the CIA in Accra and Tunis, Mboya selected the father of the president of the United States to receive a scholarship and be airlifted to the University of Hawaii where he met and married President Obama’s mother.

    An earlier CIA Current Intelligence Weekly Summary, secret, and dated April 3, 1958, states that Mboya “still appears to be the most promising of the African leaders.” Another CIA weekly summary, secret and dated December 18, 1958, calls Mboya the Kenyan nationalist an “able and dynamic young chairman” of the People’s Convention party who was viewed as an opponent of “extremists” like Nkrumah, supported by “Sino-Soviet representatives.”

    In a formerly Secret CIA report on the All-Africa Peoples Conference in 1961, dated November 1, 1961, Mboya’s conservatism, along with that of Taleb Slim of Tunisia, are contrasted to the leftist policies of Nkrumah and others. Pro-communists who were elected to the AAPC’s steering committee at the March 1961 Cairo conference, attended by Mboya, are identified in the report as Abdoulaye Diallo, AAPC Secretary General, of Senegal; Ahmed Bourmendjel of Algeria; Mario de Andrade of Angola; Ntau Mokhele of Basutoland; Kingue Abel of Cameroun; Antoine Kiwewa of Congo (Leopoldville); Kojo Botsio of Ghana; Ismail Toure of Guinea; T. O. Dosomu Johnson of Liberia; Modibo Diallo of Mali; Mahjoub Ben Seddik of Morocco; Djibo Bakari of Niger; Tunji Otegbeya of Nigeria; Kanyama Chiume of Nyasaland; Ali Abdullahi of Somalia; Tennyson Makiwane of South Africa, and Mohamed Fouad Galal of the United Arab Republic.

    The only attendees in Cairo who were given a clean bill of health by the CIA were Mboya, who appears to have been a snitch for the agency, and Joshua Nkomo of Southern Rhodesia, B. Munanka of Tanganyika, Abdel Magid Shaker of Tunisia, and John Kakonge of Uganda.

    Nkrumah would eventually be overthrown in a 1966 CIA-backed coup while he was on a state visit to China and North Vietnam. The CIA overthrow of Nkrumah followed by one year the agency’s overthrow of Sukarno, another coup that was connected to President Obama’s family on his mother’s side. There are suspicions that Mboya was assassinated in 1969 by Chinese agents working with anti-Mboya factions in the government of Kenyan President Jomo Kenyatta in order to eliminate a pro-U.S. leading political leader in Africa. Upon Mboya’s death, every embassy in Nairobi flew its flag at half-mast except for one, the embassy of the People’s Republic of China.


    Jomo Kenyatta, first President of Kenya. Mboya’s influence in the Kenyatta government would continue long after his death and while Obama, Sr. was still alive. In 1975, after the assassination of KANU politician Josiah Kariuki, a socialist who helped start KANU, along with Mboya and Obama, Sr., Kenyatta dismissed three rebellious cabinet ministers who “all had personal ties to either Kariuki or Tom Mboya.” This information is contained in CIA Staff Notes on the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia, formerly Top Secret Umbra, Handle via COMINT Channels, dated June 24, 1975. The intelligence in the report, based on its classification, indicate the information was derived from National Security Agency intercepts in Kenya. No one was ever charged in the assassination of Kariuki.

    The intecepts of Mboya’s and Kariuki’s associates are an indication that the NSA and CIA also maintain intercepts on Barack Obama, Sr., who, as a non-U.S. person, would have been lawfully subject at the time to intercepts carried out by NSA and Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ).

    Part 2 is next
  • jazz93jazz93 Members Posts: 362 ✭✭✭
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    PART 2: Special Report. The Story of Obama: All in The Company - Part II

    In Part I of this WMR special report, we revealed the connections between Barack Obama, Sr. and the CIA-affiliated Airlift Africa project to provide college degrees to and gain influence over a group of 280 eastern and southern African students from soon-to-be independent African nations to counter similar programs established by the Soviet Union and China. Barack Obama Sr. was the first African student to attend the University of Hawaii. Obama Sr. and Obama’s mother Stanley Ann Dunham met in a Russian language class in 1959 and they married in 1961.

    The African airlift program was administered by Kenyan nationalist leader Tom Mboya, a fellow Luo tribe mentor and friend of the senior Obama. According to CIA documents described in Part I, Mboya also served the CIA in ensuring that pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese African nationalists were stymied in their attempt to dominate pan-African nationalist political, student, and labor movements.

    One of Mboya’s chief opponents was Ghana’s first president, Kwame Nkrumah, who was ousted in a CIA-inspired coup in 1966, one year before to Obama Sr’s son, Barack Obama, Jr. and his mother joined Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian who Obama’s mother met at the University of Hawaii in 1965, when President Obama was four years old.

    In 1967, Obama and his mother joined her husband in Jakarta. In 1965, Lolo Soetoro had been called back from Hawaii by General Suharto to serve as an officer in the Indonesian military to help launch a 🤬 CIA-backed genocide of Indonesian Communists and Indonesian Chinese throughout the expansive country. Suharto consolidated his power in 1966, the same year that Barack Obama, Sr.’s friend, Mboya, had helped to rally pro-U.S. pan-African support for the CIA’s overthrow of Nkrumah in Ghana in 1966.

    East-West Center, University of Hawaii, and CIA coup against Sukarno

    Ann Dunham met Soetoro at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii. The center had long been affiliated with CIA activities in the Asia-Pacific region. In 1965, the year that Dunham met and married Soetoro, the center saw a new chancellor take over. He was Howard P. Jones who served a record seven years, from 1958 to 1965, as U.S. ambassador to Indonesia. Jones was present in Jakarta as Suharto and his CIA-backed military officers planned the 1965 overthrow of Sukarno, who was seen, along with the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI), as allies of China.

    When Jones was chancellor of the East-West Center, he wrote an article for the Washington Post, dated October 10, 1965, in which he defended Suharto’s overthrow of Sukarno. Jones was “invited” by the Post to comment on the Suharto coup, described as a “counter-coup” against the Communists. Jones charged that Suharto was merely responding to an earlier attempted Communist-led coup against Sukarno launched by Lt. Col. Untung, “a relatively unknown battalion commander in the palace guard.”

    Jones’s article, which mirrored CIA situation reports from the U.S. embassy in Jakarta, continued by stating that the alleged leftist coup on September 30 ”came within an inch of succeeding through the assassination of six of the top military command. It might well have succeeded had not Defense Minister Nasution and a number of other senior generals also maked for assassination acted fast in a dramatic counter-coup.” Of course, what Jones did not inform the Post’s readers was that the Suharto “counter-coup” had been assisted with the strong help of the CIA.

    Sukarno never blamed the Communists for the assassination of the army generals nor did the Indonesian Cabinet, where the second= and third-ranking leaders of the PKI were present. The possibility that the assassination of the generals was a CIA/Suharto “false flag” operation to affix blame on the PKI cannot be ruled out. Two days after Suharto’s coup, a CIA “rent-a-mob” burned down the PKI headquarters in Jakarta. As they marched past the U.S. Embassy, which was also the site of the CIA station, they yelled out, “Long live America!”

    Untung later said that when he became aware that Suharto and the CIA were planning a coup on October 5, 1965 – Indonesian Armed Forces Day – forces loyal to him and Sukarno moved first. Jones described this as “typical Communist propaganda.” Suharto moved against Sukarno on October 1. Jones iterated that “there was not an iota of truth . . . in the accusation that the CIA was working against Sukarno.” History has proven otherwise. Jones accused the Communists of taking advantage of Sukarno’s failing health to beat out the other candidates to succeed him. The goal, according to Jones, was to have PKI boss D.N. Aidit succeed Sukarno. Sukarno did not die until 1970, while under house arrest.

    A d v e r t i s e m e n t
    A CIA paper, formerly classified Secret and undated, states “Sukarno would like to return to the status quo ante-coup. He has refused to condemn the PKI or the 30th September Movement [of Lt. Col. Untung]; instead, he calls for unity of Indonesia and asks that no vengeance be taken by one group against the other. But, he has not succeeded in forcing the Army to abandon its anti-PKI activities and, on the other hand, he has bowed to their demand by appointing its single candidate General Suharto as head of the Army.” Suharto and Barry Obama Soetoro’s step-father Lolo Soetoro would ignore Sukarno’s call for no vengeance, as hundreds of thousands of Indonesians would soon discover.

    The mass murder by Suharto of Indonesian Chinese is seen in the CIA paper’s description of the Baperki Party: “the leftist Baperki Party, with its major strength in rural areas, is largely Chinese-Indonesian in membership.” A CIA Intelligence Memorandum, dated October 6, 1966 and formerly classified Secret, shows the extent of the CIA’s monitoring of the anti-Sukarno coup from various CIA agents assigned as liaisons to Suharto’s army units surrounding the Presidential Palace in Bogor and at various diplomatic posts around the country, including the U.S. Consulate in Medan, which was keeping track of leftists in that Sumatran city and, which, in an October 2, 1965, Intelligence Memo, reported to the CIA that the “Soviet consul-general in Medan has a plane standing by that could be used for evacuation of Soviet citizens from Sumatra.” The October 6 memo also warns against allowing Untung from developing a following in Central Java.

    A CIA formerly Secret “Weekly Summary Special Report” on Indonesia, dated August 11, 1967, and titled “The New Order in Indonesia,” reports that in 1966, Indonesia re-aligned its economy in order to receive International Monetary Fund (IMF) assistance. The CIA reports its is happy with the new triumvirate ruling Indonesia in 1967: Suharto, Foreign Minister Adam Malik, and the Sultan of Jogjakarta, who served as minister for economics and finance. The report also rejoices in the outlawing of the PKI, but states it “retains a significant following in East and Central Java,” where Ann Dunham Soetoro would largely concentrate her later efforts on behalf of USAID, the World Bank, and the Ford Foundation, all front activities for the CIA to “win the hearts and minds” of the Javanese farmers and artisans.

    A CIA Intelligence Memorandum, formerly Secret and dated July 23, 1966, clearly sees the Muslim Nahdatul Ulama party {NU), the largest party in Indonesia and Muslim, as a natural ally of the United States and the Suharto regime. The report states that helped Suharto put down the Communists in the post-coup time frame, especially where the NU was strongest: East Java, where Obama’s mother would concentrate her activities, and North Sumatra and parts of Borneo. An April 29, 1966, formerly Secret CIA Intelligence Memorandum on the PKI states: “Moslem extremists in many instances outdid the army in hunting down and murdering members of the party [PKI] and its front groups.”
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    Dunham and Barry Soetoro in Jakarta and USAID front activities

    Dunham dropped out of the University of Hawaii in 1960 while pregnant with Barack Obama. Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in 1962 to study at Harvard. Dunham and Obama divorced in 1964. In the fall of 1961, Dunham enrolled at the University of Washington while caring for her infant son. Dunham was re-enrolled at the University of Hawaii from 1963 to 1966. Lolo Soetoro, who Dunham married in March 1965, departed Hawaii for Indonesia on July 20, 1965, some three months prior to the CIA’s coup against Sukarno. Soetoro, who served Suharto as an Army colonel, was clearly called back from the CIA-connected East-West Center to assist in the coup against Sukarno, one that would eventually cost the lives of some one million Indonesian citizens. It is a history that President Obama would like the press to ignore, which it certainly did during the 2008 primary and general election.

    In 1967, after arriving in Indonesia with Obama, Jr., Dunham began teaching English at the American embassy in Jakarta, which also housed one of the largest CIA stations in Asia and had significant satellite stations in Surabaya in eastern Java and Medan on Sumatra. Jones left as East-West Center chancellor in 1968.

    In fact, Obama’s mother was teaching English for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), which was a major cover for CIA activities in Indonesia and throughout Southeast Asia, especially in Laos, South Vietnam, and Thailand. The USAID program was known as Lembaga Pendidikan Pembinaan Manajemen. Obama’s mother, painted as a free spirit and a “sixties child” by President Obama and people who claimed they knew her in Hawaii and Indonesia, had a curriculum vitae in Indonesia that contradicts the perception that Ann Dunham Soetoro was a “hippy.”

    Dunham Soetoro’s Russian language training at the University of Hawaii may have been useful to the CIA in Indonesia. An August 2, 1966, formerly Secret memorandum from the National Security Council’s Executive Secretary Bromley Smith states that, in addition to Japan, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, and the Philippines, the Suharto coup was welcomed by the Soviet Union and its Eastern European allies because its created a non-aligned Indonesia that “represents an Asian counterweight to Communist China.” Records indicate that a number of CIA agents posted in Jakarta before and after the 1965 coup were, like Dunham Soetoro, conversant in Russian.

    Dunham Soetoro worked for the elitist Ford Foundation, World Bank, Asian Development Bank, Bank Rakyat (the majority government-owned People’s Bank of Indonesia), and the CIA-linked USAID while she lived in Indonesia and later, Pakistan.

    USAID was involved in a number of CIA covert operations in Southeast Asia. The February 9, 1971, Washington Star reported that USAID officials in Laos were aware that rice supplied to the Laotian Army by USAID was being re-sold to North Vietnamese army divisions in the country. The report stated that the U.S. tolerated the USAID rice sales to the North Vietnamese since the Laotian Army units that sold the rice found themselves protected from Communist Pathet Lao and North Vietnamese attack. USAID and the CIA also used the supply of rice to force Laotian Meo tribesmen to support the United States in the war against the Communists. USAID funds programmed for civilians injured in the war in Laos and public health care were actually diverted for military purposes.

    In 1971, the USAID-funded Center for Vietnamese Studies at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale was accused of being a CIA front. USAID-funded projects through the Midwest Universities Consortium for International Activities (MUCIA) — comprising the Universities of Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana and Michigan State — were accused of being CIA front projects, including those for “agricultural education” in Indonesia, as well as other “projects” in Afghanistan, Mali, Nepal, Nigeria, Thailand, and South Vietnam. The charge was made in 1971, the same year that Ann Dunham was working for USAID in the country.

    In a July 10, 1971, New York Times report, USAID and the CIA were accused of “losing” $1.7 billion appropriated for the Civil Operations and Revolutionary Development Support (CORDS) program in South Vietnam. CORDS was part of the CIA’s Operation Phoenix program, which involved CIA assassination and torture of South Vietnamese village elders and Buddhist clerics. USAID money was also directed to the CIA’s proprietary airline in Southeast Asia, Air America. In Thailand, USAID funds for the Accelerated Rural Development Program in Thailand were actually masking a CIA anti-Communist counter-insurgency operation. USAID funds programmed for public works projects in East Pakistan in 1971 were used for East Pakistan’s military fortifications on its border with India, in the months before the outbreak of war with India, in contravention of U.S. law that prohibited USAID money for military purposes.

    In 1972, USAID administrator Dr. John Hannah admitted to Metromedia News that USAID was being used as a cover for CIA covert operations in Laos. Hannah only admitted to Laos as a USAID cover for the CIA. However, it was also reported that USAID was being used by the CIA in Indonesia, Philippines, South Vietnam, Thailand, and South Korea. USAID projects in Southeast Asia had to be approved by the Southeast Asian Development Advisory Group (SEADAG), an Asia Society group that was, in fact, answerable to the CIA.

    The U.S. Food for Peace program, jointly administered by USAID and the Department of Agriculture, was found in 1972 to be used for military purposes in Cambodia, South Korea, Turkey, South Vietnam, Spain, Taiwan, and Greece. In 1972, USAID funneled aid money only to the southern part of North Yemen, in order to aid North Yemeni forces against the government of South Yemen, then ruled by a socialist government opposed to U.S. hegemony in the region.

    One of the entities affiliated with the USAID work in Indonesia was the Asia Foundation, a 1950s creation formed with the help of the CIA to oppose the expansion of communism in Asia. The East-West Center guest house in Hawaii was funded by the Asia Foundation. The guest house is also where Barack Obama Sr. first stayed after his airlift from Kenya to Hawaii, arranged by the one of the CIA’s major agents of influence in Africa, Mboya.

    Dunham would also travel to Ghana, Nepal, Bangladesh, India, and Thailand working on micro-financing projects. In 1965, Barack Obama Sr. returned to Kenya from Harvard, with another American wife. The senior Obama linked up with his old friend and the CIA’s “golden boy” Mboya and other fellow Luo politicians. The CIA station chief in Nairobi from 1964 to 1967 was Philip Cherry. In 1975, Cherry was the CIA station chief in Dacca, Bangladesh. Cherry was linked by the then-U.S. ambassador to Bangladesh, Eugene Booster, to the 1975 assassination of Bangladesh’s first president, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, and members of his family.

    The hit on “Sheikh Mujib” and his family was reportedly ordered by then-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Bangladesh was also on the micro- and macro-financing travel itinerary of CIA-linked Ann Dunham.
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    CIA banking and Hawaii

    Meanwhile, Dunham Soetoro’s mother, Madelyn Dunham, who raised young Obama when he returned to Hawaii in 1971 while his mother stayed in Indonesia, was the first female vice president at the Bank of Hawaii in Honolulu. Various CIA front entities used the bank. Madelyn Dunham handled escrow accounts used to make CIA payments to U.S.-supported Asian dictators like Philippines President Ferdinand Marcos, South Vietnamese President Nguyen van Thieu, and President Suharto in Indonesia. In effect, the bank was engaged in money laundering for the CIA to covertly prop up its favored leaders in the Asia-Pacific region.

    One of the CIA’s major money laundering fronts in Honolulu was the firm of Bishop, Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham & Wong (BBRDW). After the CIA allowed the firm to collapse in 1983 amid charges that BBRDW was merely a Ponzi scheme, Senator Daniel Inouye of the US Senate Intelligence Committee said the CIA’s role in the firm “wasn’t significant.” It would later be revealed that Inouye, who was one of the late Alaska Senator Ted Stevens’s best friends in the Senate, was lying. In fact, BBRDW was involved heavily in funding covert CIA programs throughout Asia, including economic espionage against Japan, providing arms for Afghan mujaheddin guerrillas in their war against the Soviets and covertly supplying weapons to Taiwan. One of BBRDW’s principals was John C. “Jack” Kindschi, who, before he retired in 1981, was the CIA station chief in Honolulu. BBRDW’s chairman Ron Rewald had a counterfeit college degree certificate provided for the wall of his office by the CIA’s forgery experts and his name was inserted in university records as an alumnus.

    A false history for BBRDW was concocted by the CIA claiming the firm had operated in Hawaii since it was a territory. President Obama is currently plagued by allegations that he has fake college and university transcripts, a phony social security number issued in Connecticut, and other padded resume items. Did Hawaii’s fake BBRDW documents portend today’s questions about Obama’s past?

    BBRDW conducted its business in the heart of Honolulu’s business district, where the Bank of Hawaii was located and where Obama grandmother Madelyn Dunham ran the escrow accounts. The bank would handle much of BBRDW’s covert financial transactions.

    Obama/Soetoro and the “years of living dangerously” in Jakarta

    It is clear that Dunham Soetoro and her Indonesian husband, President Obama’s step-father, were closely involved in the CIA’s operations to steer Indonesia away from the Sino-Soviet orbit during the “years of living dangerously” after the overthrow of Sukarno. WMR has discovered that some of the CIA’s top case officers were assigned to various official and non-official cover assignments in Indonesia during this time frame, including under the cover of USAID, the Peace Corps, and the U.S. Information Agency (USIA).

    One of the closest CIA contacts for Suharto was former CIA Jakarta embassy officer Kent B. Crane. Crane was so close to Suharto after “retiring” from the CIA, he was reportedly one of the only “private” businessmen given an Indonesian diplomatic passport by Suharto’s government. Crane’s company, the Crane Group, was involved in supplying small arms to the military forces of the United States, Indonesia, and other nations. A foreign policy adviser to Vice President Spiro Agnew, Crane was later nominated as U.S. ambassador to Indonesia by President Ronald Reagan but the nomination was dead-on-arrival because of Crane’s dubious links to Suharto. The ambassadorship would instead go to John Holdridge, a close colleague of Kissinger. Holdridge was succeeded in Jakarta by Paul Wolfowitz.

    Suharto’s cronies, who included Mochtar and James Riady of the Lippo Group, would later stand accused of funneling over $1 million of illegal foreign contributions to Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign.

    President Obama has twice postponed official state visits to Indonesia, perhaps fearful of the attention such a trip would bring to the CIA connections of his mother and Indonesian step-father.

    In the 1970s and 80s, Dunham was active in micro-loan projects for the Ford Foundation, the CIA-linked East-West Center, and USAID in Indonesia. One of the individuals assigned to the U.S. embassy and helped barricade the compound during a violent anti-U.S. student demonstration during the 1965 Suharto coup against Sukarno was Dr. Gordon Donald, Jr. Assigned to the embassy’s Economic Section, Donald was responsible for USAID micro-financing for Indonesian farmers, the same project that Dunham Soetoro would work on for USAID in the 1970s, after her USAID job of teaching English in Indonesia. In a 1968 book, “Who’s Who in the CIA,” published in West Berlin, Donald is identified as a CIA officer who was also assigned to Lahore, Pakistan, where Dunham would eventually live for five years in the Hilton International Hotel while working on microfinancing for the Asian Development Bank.

    Another “Who’s Who in the CIA” Jakarta alumnus is Robert F. Grealy, who later became the director for international relations for the Asia-Pacific for J P Morgan Chase and a director for the American-Indonesian Chamber of Commerce. J P Morgan Chase’s CEO Jamie Dimon is being mentioned as a potential replacement for Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, whose father, Peter Geithner, was the Ford Foundation’s Asia grant-selector who funneled the money to Ann Dunham’s Indonesian projects.
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    The Family of Obama and the CIA

    There are volumes of written material on the CIA backgrounds of George H. W. Bush and CIA-related activities by his father and children, including former President George W. Bush. Barack Obama, on the other hand, cleverly masked his own CIA connections as well as those of his mother, father, step-father, and grandmother (there is very little known about Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, who was supposedly in the furniture business in Hawaii after serving in Europe during World War II). Presidents and vice presidents do not require security background checks, unlike other members of the federal government, to hold office. That job is left up to the press. In 2008, the press failed miserably in its duty to vet the man who would win the White House. With the ties of Obama’s parents to the University of Hawaii and its links to MKULTRA and ARTICHOKE, a nagging question remains: Is Barack Obama a real-life “Manchurian Candidate?”

    (Continued below)

    PART 3: August 19, 2010 — SPECIAL REPORT. The Story of Obama: All in the Company — Add one more Obama family member to the CIA payroll. Part III

    WMR previously reported on the CIA links of President Obama’s mother, father, step-father, grandmother to the CIA. Not much is known about Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, who Obama mistakenly referred to as “his father” in two speeches, one recently to the Disabled American Veterans.

    What is officially known about Stanley Armour Dunham is that he served with the 9th Air Force in Britain and France prior to and after the D-Day invasion. After the war, Dunham and his wife, Madelyn and his daughter Stanley Ann — Obama’s mother — moved to Berkeley, California; El Dorado, Kansas; Seattle; and Honolulu. Armour Dunham is said to have worked for a series of furniture stores.

    Obama maintains that his mother and father first met in a Russian-language class at the University of Hawaii in 1959. However, a photograph has emerged of Stanley Armour welcoming Barack Obama, Sr., complete with traditional Hawaiian welcoming leis, from Kenya. Obama, Sr. was the only Kenyan student airlifted to Hawaii as part of the CIA-inspired Airlift Africa project that saw Obama and 279 other students from British eastern and southern African colonies brought to the United States for college degrees prior to their homelands gaining independence from Britain. The students were selected by Kenyan nationalist leader Tom Mboya who would later conduct surveillance for the CIA at pan-African nationalist meetings. Mboya was particularly focused on two African leaders who were seen as too close to the Sino-Soviet bloc, Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana and Sekout Toure of Guinea.



    Stanley Armour Dunham with Barack Obama, Sr. at welcoming ceremony to Hawaii. The presence of two US Navy personnel indicates the plane may have landed at Hickam Air Force Base, an indication of the U.S. government’s and CIA’s role in the Airlift Africa project.

    The photograph of Armour Dunham with Barack Obama, Sr., indicates that the “furniture salesman” in Hawaii was, in fact, working with a CIA-funded project to rapidly educate aspiring politicians to serve in post-independence African governments to counter Soviet- and Chinese-backed political leaders in the region.

    There is a strong reason to believe that Armour Dunham worked in the 1950s for the CIA in the Middle East. An FBI file on Armour Dunham existed but the bureau claimed it destroyed the file on May 1, 1997. Considering the sour relations between the FBI and CIA during the Cold War, it is likely that Armour Dunham was being monitored by FBI director J. Edgar Hoover in the same manner as a number of other CIA officials and agents were being surveilled. Similarly, the pre-1968 passport records of Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, were destroyed by the State Department.

    There is a photographic clue that the Dunhams may have been assigned by the CIA to Beirut, Lebanon in the early 1950s. A photograph of Obama’s mother and grandparents has emerged that shows Stanley Ann Dunham wearing what may be a school uniform with the insignia of “NdJ,” which stands for the College Notre-Dame de Jamhour, a private Jesuit Catholic French language school in Beirut, Lebanon. Graduates of the school include three former presidents of Lebanon, Amine Gemayel, Bashir Gemayel, and Charles Helou, all of whom maintained close relations with Washington.



    Did Obama’s mother
    go to a private school in Lebanon in the early 1950s while her father [middle] worked for the CIA in Beirut?

    There is also the curious nature of President Obama’s Social Security Number, issued in Connecticut, a state where there is no other evidence of his ever being a resident. Adding to the mystery is a New York City address for a “male” named Stanley Ann Dunham, 235 E. 40th St Apt 8F, New York NY 10016-1747. The address is a few blocks away from the address of the Ford Foundation. Ann Dunham did work briefly in New York for the Ford Foundation.

    On August 9, 2010, WMR reported, “In a December 19, 1971, article in the Boston Globe by Dan Pinck, [a historian and former OSS officer] titled ‘Is everyone in the CIA?’ it is alleged that identifying US Agency for International Development (USAID) officers as CIA agents was a ‘reasonably accurate accounting of certain leading operatives and associates of the CIA.’ President Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro worked for USAID in rural Java in Indonesia. Pinck’s article was a review of a 1968 book, ‘Who’s Who in the CIA’ published in Berlin.”

    WMR has obtained a rare copy of “Who’s Who in the CIA,” from England. The book, published in West Berlin in 1968, lists some 3,000 CIA agents and agents-of-influence around the world.

    The book also contains a reference to one CIA operative whose area of primary place of operation was Mercer Island, Washington. He was retired Air Force General Don Zabriskie Zimmermann, who was the Chief Engineer for the Boeing Company in Seattle. Before retiring from the Air Force, Zimmermann was the Air Force Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff for Development in Foreign Countries. Ann Stanley Dunham reportedly graduated from Mercer Island High School in 1960 and met Obama later that year in a Russian language class after her parents moved to Hawaii. Stanley Ann’s mother, Madelyn Dunham, worked at a Boeing plant in Wichita, Kansas during World War II.

    The book lists the number of CIA agents in countries during the 1950s and 60s where Obama’s father, mother, step-father Lolo Soetori, and allegedly, his grandmother and grandfather worked:
  • b*brazeb*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Lol @ "bombshell"

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    all presidents are "selected"
  • TimeToPartyTimeToParty Members Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    there just aint no way in hell im reading all that
  • earth two supermanearth two superman ladies please dont fight. E2S is here all night! Members Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    there just aint no way in hell im reading all that

    cosign

    partying >> reading all that bs.
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
    edited August 2010
    Well after a decade of reading. I still don't feel any different. I think he was the favorite of the higher ups to win and they pushed hard for him to make sure it happened. But a lot of what is said in there is just speculation and has nothing to back it up. So I wouldn't call if proof but rather "opinions backed by opinions that Obama is a CIA creation."
  • jazz93jazz93 Members Posts: 362 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    This is the problem with Black people. We make ill-informed statements like ThaChozenWun without doing homework. Opinions are made based on feelings and beliefs rather than critical thinking and accurate research.

    @ ChozenWun Your statement is it based on fact or your opinions and beliefs? Because most of the info in that report is easily verifiable. Especially if you know the credibility and history of Wayne Madsen. But why think for yourself? Why do research? Especially when "partying is so much better than reading."

    That's why EVERY single RACE laughs at us behind our backs and publicly. The Japanese Government has stood on stage more than once and called us a stupid race yet we are the biggest consumers of their product. WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
    edited August 2010
    jazz93 wrote: »
    This is the problem with Black people. We make ill-informed statements like ThaChozenWun without doing homework. Opinions are made based on feelings and beliefs rather than critical thinking and accurate research.

    @ ChozenWun Your statement is it based on fact or your opinions and beliefs? Because most of the info in that report is easily verifiable. Especially if you know the credibility and history of Wayne Madsen. But why think for yourself? Why do research? Especially when "partying is so much better than reading."

    That's why EVERY single RACE laughs at us behind our backs and publicly. The Japanese Government has stood on stage more than once and called us a stupid race yet we are the biggest consumers of their product. WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE

    No most of it is not fact. They find a man with connections to Obama or his Family, and then fill in gaps with their own info. It is done by all kinds of conspiracy theorists. And get the 🤬 out of here with the race 🤬 🤬 .
  • musicology1985musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    No most of it is not fact. They find a man with connections to Obama or his Family, and then fill in gaps with their own info. It is done by all kinds of conspiracy theorists. And get the 🤬 out of here with the race 🤬 🤬 .

    This statement is right out of the Major Paine playbook. The problem with this is, The U.S. Courts do the exact same thing and in most cases when they have a vendetta? WORSE.

    You call us conspiracy theorists but the U.S. Government practices Conspiracy Charges that are, I repeat, the same exact thing.

    This is a gigantic double standard. Nevertheless, I consider myself exempt from this "fill in your own info" because all of my theories are based on historical facts. And remember, a theory is a set of facts. I just use Conspiracy Theory to put them in the proper perspective and trace Western Civilization back to the Babylonian origins & Greco-Roman root.

    Anyway, interesting article about Obama's background. I been hearing rumors that he's a product of the intelligence community since summer 2008, although I'm currently rooting for the brother on behalf of the black Farmers because i've been following that story for a while too. I wish him the best.
  • musicology1985musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Oh yeah. Props to Sourpatch Kid. Good info as well the additional insight from Young Ice!
  • playmaker88playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    lol... ahah..
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
    edited August 2010
    This statement is right out of the Major Paine playbook. The problem with this is, The U.S. Courts do the exact same thing and in most cases when they have a vendetta? WORSE.

    You call us conspiracy theorists but the U.S. Government practices Conspiracy Charges that are, I repeat, the same exact thing.

    This is a gigantic double standard. Nevertheless, I consider myself exempt from this "fill in your own info" because all of my theories are based on historical facts. And remember, a theory is a set of facts. I just use Conspiracy Theory to put them in the proper perspective and trace Western Civilization back to the Babylonian origins & Greco-Roman root.

    Anyway, interesting article about Obama's background. I been hearing rumors that he's a product of the intelligence community since summer 2008, although I'm currently rooting for the brother on behalf of the black Farmers because i've been following that story for a while too. I wish him the best.

    What does anything I said have to do with what courts do?

    They both put in information to fit their needs yes but what does it have to do with what I said? Nothing, just you trying to start an argument.
  • musicology1985musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    @ThaChozenWun

    What does anything I said have to do with what courts do?

    It has everything to do with that. I'm pointing out the double standard and that it's a tired excuse that we hear all the time to discredit Conspiracy Theorists as well as the legitimate sources that bring forth good information to put things in perspective about Obama's Magic 🤬 ascension. Not hating on Obama or nothing, because Clinton came up a similar way and Obama cares more about black people than Clinton did

    They both put in information to fit their needs yes but what does it have to do with what I said? Nothing, just you trying to start an argument.

    I'm not trying to start an argument, but what is wrong with the info? Can you point out something that shows flaws in what he said?

    It's not like this is gonna hurt Obama or nothin,' and if it does, this is just a battle between two agents anyway, because everybody knows that Alex Jones is an agent with all that 🤬 that he does.
  • garvgarv Confirm Email Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    No most of it is not fact. They find a man with connections to Obama or his Family, and then fill in gaps with their own info. It is done by all kinds of conspiracy theorists. And get the 🤬 out of here with the race 🤬 🤬 .

    Yet alot of opinions which are laughed off as 'conspiracy theories' are later found out to be true, i'm sure in a few years ago you would of called me a conspiracy theorist for suggesting The U.S went to Iraq for Oil, years down the line the so called conspiracy theory is a opinion held by most.
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
    edited August 2010
    garv wrote: »
    Yet alot of opinions which are laughed off as 'conspiracy theories' are later found out to be true, i'm sure in a few years ago you would of called me a conspiracy theorist for suggesting The U.S went to Iraq for Oil, years down the line the so called conspiracy theory is a opinion held by most.

    Nope, If you told me the day Bush was elected as president that we would eventually be in the middle east over oil I would have agreed.
  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    LMAO and SMH...
  • tri3wtri3w Members Posts: 3,142 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    garv wrote: »
    Yet alot of opinions which are laughed off as 'conspiracy theories' are later found out to be true, i'm sure in a few years ago you would of called me a conspiracy theorist for suggesting The U.S went to Iraq for Oil, years down the line the so called conspiracy theory is a opinion held by most.

    but thats Niot unfathomable, it makes sense, matter of fact i thought it was common Knowlegde (lol)........but when u start sayin crazy 🤬 like; "Obama is a CIA plant" and "Obama is a Muslim terrorist" or "Obama is secretly the Leader of the new black panther party" 🤬 that makes noo sense @ all, how am i suppose to take u seriously??? Dude is say in crazy 🤬 about Obama, the newest thing I heard somebody sayi was that he was a Satanist lol
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopMembers Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    It's very possible......to this day, I truly wonder why Obama has his college files sealed....
  • LONDON!LONDON! Members Posts: 679 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    it wouldn't suprise me if obama was a cia created mudda focker going from this information jazz93 exposed, because tony blair was a mi6 spy hired to infiltrate the anti-nuclear war movement in the 80's during the thatcher goverments reign, even though he was a member of the opposition party to her goverment, so his latter imperialists movements add up, he basically hijacked the old labour party and turned it into a next tory(conservatives) party, his idols, so it makes sense and is perfectly plausible that obama was an cia stooge going by this information too to me
  • jazz93jazz93 Members Posts: 362 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    This is what is sad about people and their opinions. They DONT do real and credible research, if they do any at all. THEN they try to sound as if they have any expertise on the subject. I am not a Conspiracy Theorist nor am I a Republican or a Democrat. I am Registered Independent. This is because both parties are effed up and I vote based on the issue and not the party line. More people need to think critically for themselves without involving race, feelings, party line, etc. So here are some FACTS:
    FACTS:

    1) Barack has spent over a million dollars to keep his birth certificate from being released.

    2) His mom's passport was shredded by the government.

    3) Barack's grandma has said repeatedly on video that he was born in Kenya. Easily found on Youtube.

    4) The ONLY thing released for Barack is a COLB. (certificate of live birth and it doesn't have the Official Seal of Hawaii on it.

    5) The Indonesian press is waiting to question Obama about his time there. He was their longer than he admits. Obama has twice cancelled trips to Indonesia to avoid unwanted scrutiny.

    6) Very few STUDENTS can recall being in college with him. ONLY occasional teachers.

    7) Obama's parents "met" in a Russian language class. An American and a student from Kenya learning Russian at the height of the Cold War?

    8) Obama said his parents met for the first time in class yet their are pictures of her Grandpa waiting for Barack's father to land at the airport when he first arrived from Kenya on the Kennedy plan.

    9) Obama's mom "dated/screwed/hooked up" with Peter Geithner, father of Tim Geithner and the FORMER HEAD of the NY FED RESERVE who now works in
    Obama's cabinet as the Treasurer.

    9b) Tim Geitner is a known member of the BilderBerg Group and Tri Lateral Commission.

    10) Obama worked for Henry Kissinger in his first job out of College. Henry Kissinger is a known member of The BilderBerg Group, CFR and TriLateral Commission.

    11) Obama voted again for the Patriot Act even though he renounced it during his campaign.

    12) Hillary Clinton is a member of The BilderBerg Group and Council on Foreign Relations. She is married to Bill Clinton, member of The TriLateral Commission.

    13) Obama has KEPT Bush's Sec of Defense Robert Gates. Gates is a known member of BBG, CFR and TriLateral Commission.

    14) During his campaign he said he would not accept lobbyists or their money. Seconds after he was in office he appointed William Lynn (top lobbyist for Raytheon), Mark Patterson (top lobbyist for Goldman Sachs) Tom Daschle (top lobbyist for Health Care firms) Leon Panetta and on and on. ALL of these guys are lobbyists and known members of the BBG, CFR and TLC.

    15) Exec Directive DOD 1404.10 Obama has ORDERED Defense to institute a 1 million man army exclusively under his control. Army does not need approval from Congress.

    16) His USAService.org is a recruiting site for HIS PRIVATE ARMY. EVERYONE UNDER 64 will be forced to serve for a min of 3 mos. Rahm Emanuel and Obama said so on camera.

    17) On HIS Change.Gov site it says that high school kids will be FORCED to serve 50 hours in his army. Look it up on HIS WEBSITE.

    18) Obama's grandmother ran the bank that the CIA used to make their payments to politicians, spies, etc.

    These are the postings of a Realist who does his own thinking and research. Not the postings of a Conspiracy Theorist. I am not telling you what to think or believe. You do the reading, you do the verification. Any conclusions after that are entirely up to you.
  • musicology1985musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    jazz93 wrote: »
    This is what is sad about people and their opinions. They DONT do real and credible research, if they do any at all. THEN they try to sound as if they have any expertise on the subject. I am not a Conspiracy Theorist nor am I a Republican or a Democrat. I am Registered Independent. This is because both parties are effed up and I vote based on the issue and not the party line. More people need to think critically for themselves without involving race, feelings, party line, etc. So here are some FACTS:
    FACTS:

    1) Barack has spent over a million dollars to keep his birth certificate from being released.

    2) His mom's passport was shredded by the government.

    3) Barack's grandma has said repeatedly on video that he was born in Kenya. Easily found on Youtube.

    4) The ONLY thing released for Barack is a COLB. (certificate of live birth and it doesn't have the Official Seal of Hawaii on it.

    5) The Indonesian press is waiting to question Obama about his time there. He was their longer than he admits. Obama has twice cancelled trips to Indonesia to avoid unwanted scrutiny.

    6) Very few STUDENTS can recall being in college with him. ONLY occasional teachers.

    7) Obama's parents "met" in a Russian language class. An American and a student from Kenya learning Russian at the height of the Cold War?

    8) Obama said his parents met for the first time in class yet their are pictures of her Grandpa waiting for Barack's father to land at the airport when he first arrived from Kenya on the Kennedy plan.

    9) Obama's mom "dated/screwed/hooked up" with Peter Geithner, father of Tim Geithner and the FORMER HEAD of the NY FED RESERVE who now works in
    Obama's cabinet as the Treasurer.

    9b) Tim Geitner is a known member of the BilderBerg Group and Tri Lateral Commission.

    10) Obama worked for Henry Kissinger in his first job out of College. Henry Kissinger is a known member of The BilderBerg Group, CFR and TriLateral Commission.

    11) Obama voted again for the Patriot Act even though he renounced it during his campaign.

    12) Hillary Clinton is a member of The BilderBerg Group and Council on Foreign Relations. She is married to Bill Clinton, member of The TriLateral Commission.

    13) Obama has KEPT Bush's Sec of Defense Robert Gates. Gates is a known member of BBG, CFR and TriLateral Commission.

    14) During his campaign he said he would not accept lobbyists or their money. Seconds after he was in office he appointed William Lynn (top lobbyist for Raytheon), Mark Patterson (top lobbyist for Goldman Sachs) Tom Daschle (top lobbyist for Health Care firms) Leon Panetta and on and on. ALL of these guys are lobbyists and known members of the BBG, CFR and TLC.

    15) Exec Directive DOD 1404.10 Obama has ORDERED Defense to institute a 1 million man army exclusively under his control. Army does not need approval from Congress.

    16) His USAService.org is a recruiting site for HIS PRIVATE ARMY. EVERYONE UNDER 64 will be forced to serve for a min of 3 mos. Rahm Emanuel and Obama said so on camera.

    17) On HIS Change.Gov site it says that high school kids will be FORCED to serve 50 hours in his army. Look it up on HIS WEBSITE.

    18) Obama's grandmother ran the bank that the CIA used to make their payments to politicians, spies, etc.

    These are the postings of a Realist who does his own thinking and research. Not the postings of a Conspiracy Theorist. I am not telling you what to think or believe. You do the reading, you do the verification. Any conclusions after that are entirely up to you.

    Realist=Conspiracy Theorist. Get off the 🤬 ' high horse. Most "real" Conspiracy Theorists do all of their own research as well just like you and if it was not for the work of CT's in the past, the names of these orgs wouldn't even be common knowledge nor is ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY GREATER THAN WHAT OTHER CONSPIRACY THEORISTS HAVE BEEN SAYING. Your snotty.
  • jazz93jazz93 Members Posts: 362 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Sorry but pictures, video words directly out of someone's mouth is a fact, not an opinion. The only thing we can do is take these facts and process them for ourselves.
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