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So when did "Illuminati symbols" turn bad?

ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
edited September 2010 in The Social Lounge
Most of them come from Egypt, others are spread across the ancient world but all have one thing in common, they were never used as "evil, sinister, or dark" until this Illuminati craze started.



Lets start off the with the sun. Below are two examples, one is the symbol for Ra, the Egyptian Sun God, and the other a sun painted on a crazy guys forehead.

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The first questions is obviously, What is the difference? Why or when did the symbol for Ra, which is above, start to have a dark meaning behind it? Outside of the explanation that Christians or Muslims believe worshiping other gods are wrong, I see no evil in having a symbol representing the element of life.








Next is, Udjat, or the eye of Horus. Again first is the symbol, and then the same thing in the Illuminati, for which I won't post because I'm sure all of you have one dollar bill or know what it is.

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Now as I stated, this is the Eye Of Horus, it's meaning is healing and protection. So again, what makes this bad for the Illuminati to use? When did it go evil? Now some of you will claim, "Oh they use with a pyramid, so that means it's evil"





So Let's go ahead and examine the pyramid first before I continue

First off it wasn't a pyramid to them. Well in a sense it was but Egyptians seen the Primordial Mound, as a hill that rose from the sea of chaos. It was likely the inspirations for the pyramid, but again it holds no weight on the side of evil.

Now, like I said some will say when it has the eye attached it's bad, well no! The eye attached to the pyramid simply means the land is protected and healed under the watchful eye of Ra. Or God.

Now if people have no issue saying god is looking out for me, watching down on me, or what not, what makes your words any less evil that this symbolism?


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  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    Onto part two.

    W'ell start off with another symbol that some use to tie the Freemasons into the Illuminati and evil devil worshipping sects.

    FreemasonSymbol.jpg

    Looks harmless, really is tied into the stone masons who were builders hence the Compass and Ruler. But let's go with the flow and say no that's not it.

    The compass and ruler prove that they are into number symbolism and plotting to do some mind fuckery with numbers and the real evil is shown in the fact it has six points. Which mean nothing really but some people believe that even though this has 6 and a pentagram has 5, that it's really a play off the pentagram. Which again is wrong.



    If it got it roots from anywhere, we again can attribute the way it's shaped to another ancient egyptian symbol. The Sema. Now it has many images to symbolize different things and aspects of upper and lower Egypt. This one particular, means the binding of the two together. Meaning both becoming united as a whole by God.

    sema2.jpg

    If you can't see it, here it is outlined.

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    Now, this may not be it. Or it may be, no one really knows. If it isn't, so be it but it has alot more credibility than being based on a object that really holds no similarities.





    Lastly for now because I don't feel like doing more unless the thread picks up steam, is the solar cross.

    I can only post up one more image, so this is it.

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    Now, I don't follow the Illuminati stuff religiously so I have no idea why this is evil in the Illuminati exposee world, so someone please explain why?

    When did that become evil? It was originally used as a marker for the changing seasons. (http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5826/solarcross.jpg) for those who want to see that.





    Like I said, that's all for now, if the thread gets going I'll add more and we can discuss or whatever.
  • melanated khemistmelanated khemist Posts: 608 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Ra is not the Sun God and fuck you get that generic ass pic from? As the thread picks up ill discuss more of your inaccuracies.
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  • Swiffness!Swiffness! PART OF THE CONSPIRACY Posts: 10,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    When dumb paranoid niggas figured out how Youtube worked.

    There. I answered your question.
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  • major painmajor pain Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Ra is not the Sun God and fuck you get that generic ass pic from? As the thread picks up ill discuss more of your inaccuracies.

    Uh... many sources would disagree with you.
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  • melanated khemistmelanated khemist Posts: 608 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    major pain wrote: »
    Uh... many sources would disagree with you.

    name the sources? NON EUROPEAN PLEASE thanks in advance
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    Sleep with my heat, wash with my gun in the shower
    My tongue is power, it thrills women, kills demons
    Long as I'm still breathin I'm still winnin, I'll teach 'em
  • major painmajor pain Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Onto part two.

    W'ell start off with another symbol that some use to tie the Freemasons into the Illuminati and evil devil worshipping sects.

    FreemasonSymbol.jpg

    Looks harmless, really is tied into the stone masons who were builders hence the Compass and Ruler. But let's go with the flow and say no that's not it.

    The compass and ruler prove that they are into number symbolism and plotting to do some mind fuckery with numbers and the real evil is shown in the fact it has six points. Which mean nothing really but some people believe that even though this has 6 and a pentagram has 5, that it's really a play off the pentagram. Which again is wrong.



    If it got it roots from anywhere, we again can attribute the way it's shaped to another ancient egyptian symbol. The Sema. Now it has many images to symbolize different things and aspects of upper and lower Egypt. This one particular, means the binding of the two together. Meaning both becoming united as a whole by God.

    sema2.jpg

    If you can't see it, here it is outlined.

    sema2trace.jpg

    Now, this may not be it. Or it may be, no one really knows. If it isn't, so be it but it has alot more credibility than being based on a object that really holds no similarities.



    Square and Compasses not Compass and Ruler.

    6 points? Eh not exactly.

    Its not.
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  • bankrupt ballerbankrupt baller Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    a pen is just a pen untill i stab you in the neck 20 times with it like in the movie casino......now its a murder weapon....lol
  • major painmajor pain Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    name the sources? NON EUROPEAN PLEASE thanks in advance

    What exactly does a source being or not being European mean? I've never seen Ra disputed as not being a god of the sun.

    http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/ra.htm

    http://www.nekhebet.com/r_gods3.html
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  • b*brazeb*braze Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Ra is not the Sun God and fuck you get that generic ass pic from? As the thread picks up ill discuss more of your inaccuracies.

    Why wait?

    Drop the knowledge.
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    major pain wrote: »
    Square and Compasses not Compass and Ruler.

    6 points? Eh not exactly.

    Its not.

    I explained why I said six points after that.

    I can show you where they claim the freemason logo has six points.


    As for the last thing, it's merely pointing out these so called "similarities" in things they claim such as how DC monuments being in a pentagon shape and shit mean they are connected.
  • major painmajor pain Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    I explained why I said six points after that.

    I can show you where they claim the freemason logo has six points.


    As for the last thing, it's merely pointing out these so called "similarities" in things they claim such as how DC monuments being in a pentagon shape and shit mean they are connected.


    Someone always has an explanation for the symbols, but you wont find an explanation in an official capacity on "points". Were you initiated yet?
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  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    major pain wrote: »
    Someone always has an explanation for the symbols, but you wont find an explanation in an official capacity on "points". Were you initiated yet?

    The 28th........
  • major painmajor pain Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    the 28th........


    lawse......
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  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    major pain wrote: »
    lawse......

    Why's that?


    I was wondering to I might as well ask you, the guy I talked to about it was over the phone. He got a good bit of info off of me and gave me a location in Uniontown to be at on that day, does that mean they're doing the initiation that day or what? I thought the only Masonic Lodge in PA was way out in Philly.
  • major painmajor pain Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Why's that?


    I was wondering to I might as well ask you, the guy I talked to about it was over the phone. He got a good bit of info off of me and gave me a location in Uniontown to be at on that day, does that mean they're doing the initiation that day or what? I thought the only Masonic Lodge in PA was way out in Philly.

    Send me a PM, what EXACTLY did he tell u?
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  • BurninBushBurninBush Posts: 529 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    they became bad after zionist jews got a hold of them...
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    BurninBush wrote: »
    they became bad after zionist jews got a hold of them...

    So if they turned bad, what do they mean now?
  • BurninBushBurninBush Posts: 529 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    So if they turned bad, what do they mean now?

    they are the symbols of the new world order..take a dollar out of your pocket and look at it. the all seeing eye for the egyptian god horus, the pyramid(triangle) and the number 13 is all throughout the designs in our money...those are illuminati symbols. and dont forget the lil ass owl in the right hand top corner next to the 1 on the back.

    the zionist jews stole these symbols in bavaria and brought it over here. the zionist jews are the reason for all the wars of the world. I AINT TALKING ABOUT REGULAR GOD-FEARING JEWS. the ones who denounced thier faith and started worshiping satan as thier god because they were pissed off that the torah said that jews will have no state or land as punishment for not accepting jesus as the son of god. that is the reason they are seen as bad and "devil worshipers. many government people are zionist jews...america is just catching on to what the rest of the world already knew. thats all im sayin cuz this the type of shit that get people killed.

    remember fam, sometimes ignorance is bliss...
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    BurninBush wrote: »
    they are the symbols of the new world order..take a dollar out of your pocket and look at it. the all seeing eye for the egyptian god horus, the pyramid(triangle) and the number 13 is all throughout the designs in our money...those are illuminati symbols. and dont forget the lil ass owl in the right hand top corner next to the 1 on the back.

    the zionist jews stole these symbols in bavaria and brought it over here. the zionist jews are the reason for all the wars of the world. I AINT TALKING ABOUT REGULAR GOD-FEARING JEWS. the ones who denounced thier faith and started worshiping satan as thier god because they were pissed off that the torah said that jews will have no state or land as punishment for not accepting jesus as the son of god. that is the reason they are seen as bad and "devil worshipers. many government people are zionist jews...america is just catching on to what the rest of the world already knew. thats all im sayin cuz this the type of shit that get people killed.

    remember fam, sometimes ignorance is bliss...

    Okay but what tells you that those are now evil symbols? Where is the evidence those symbols are being used for evil deeds?

    There could be an illuminati, but why are they evil? Other than you seen a few youtube videos joining the two or heard someone talking about?

    and LMAO@ The bolded, come on son.

    I talk shit on god, jesus, muhammad, the illuminati, the nwo, skull n bones and all that shit and aint a got dayum thing never happened to me. You don't have nothing that no one else has already stated. And apperantly you can't even describe why they are evil outside of some religious bullshit. Where is the evidence these symbols mean something else?
  • major painmajor pain Posts: 10,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    BurninBush wrote: »
    they are the symbols of the new world order..take a dollar out of your pocket and look at it. the all seeing eye for the egyptian god horus, the pyramid(triangle) and the number 13 is all throughout the designs in our money...those are illuminati symbols. and dont forget the lil ass owl in the right hand top corner next to the 1 on the back.

    the zionist jews stole these symbols in bavaria and brought it over here. the zionist jews are the reason for all the wars of the world. I AINT TALKING ABOUT REGULAR GOD-FEARING JEWS. the ones who denounced thier faith and started worshiping satan as thier god because they were pissed off that the torah said that jews will have no state or land as punishment for not accepting jesus as the son of god. that is the reason they are seen as bad and "devil worshipers. many government people are zionist jews...america is just catching on to what the rest of the world already knew. thats all im sayin cuz this the type of shit that get people killed.

    remember fam, sometimes ignorance is bliss...

    Chozen only has Grants and Benjamins son...!!
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  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    Another thing Bush just so you understand the symbolism on the dollar.

    The pyramid is their meaning the the USA is a new world coming into formation. I shouldnt say new world cause you're gullible so a new country, a new beginning. Exactly the same as the original pyramid in Egypt meant.

    The Eye over the pyramid symbolizes the watchful eye of god protecting the new land.

    And the number 13 is because of the 13 colonies. It's not rocket science.


    They were never Illuminati symbols, they are ancient symbols mostly from Egypt but other cultures as well that are commonly used and over time some people have tied them into some freaky super secret society.
  • BurninBushBurninBush Posts: 529 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Okay but what tells you that those are now evil symbols? Where is the evidence those symbols are being used for evil deeds?

    There could be an illuminati, but why are they evil? Other than you seen a few youtube videos joining the two or heard someone talking about?

    and LMAO@ The bolded, come on son.

    I talk shit on god, jesus, muhammad, the illuminati, the nwo, skull n bones and all that shit and aint a got dayum thing never happened to me. You don't have nothing that no one else has already stated. And apperantly you can't even describe why they are evil outside of some religious bullshit. Where is the evidence these symbols mean something else?

    at the bolded, believe what you want fam. bush passed a anti-privacy law before he left office so they can look at all yo shit without u even knowin and its legal for them to do it now. the illuminati is the biggest secret organization in the world. u really think they aint seein shit people say on the internet? lol i dont have the fame or name to make a difference so truthfully they dont give a shit about me cuz i can only inform so many people. but they damn sure gave a shit when kennedy said sumthin bout it didnt they...

    and i read alot famo, alotta of ex-illuminati members wrote books under aliases about how all that shit began and what it is today, and will be. look for them if u really gone read them. the majority of government officials and famous people are illuminati, but they just get in it for the fame and money and watever else they offer. they run the world, so they can get them whateva the hell they want. most of them dont even know what they actually getting themselves into.

    and im not saying the symbols are bad, they are equated with bad things because of the modern day people who are associated with them.
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    BurninBush wrote: »
    at the bolded, believe what you want fam. bush passed a anti-privacy law before he left office so they can look at all yo shit without u even knowin and its legal for them to do it now. the illuminati is the biggest secret organization in the world. u really think they aint seein shit people say on the internet? lol i dont have the fame or name to make a difference so truthfully they dont give a shit about me cuz i can only inform so many people. but they damn sure gave a shit when kennedy said sumthin bout it didnt they...

    and i read alot famo, alotta of ex-illuminati members wrote books under aliases about how all that shit began and what it is today, and will be. look for them if u really gone read them. the majority of government officials and famous people are illuminati, but they just get in it for the fame and money and watever else they offer. they run the world, so they can get them whateva the hell they want. most of them dont even know what they actually getting themselves into.
    but naa i read alot. many ex-illuminati have written books. search for them if u actually gone read them.

    So again, where at did the symbols turn evil, what are the new meanings and what evil is being done?

    And what is wrong with a new world order?

    The current world order aint doing to good of a job?
  • BurninBushBurninBush Posts: 529 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Another thing Bush just so you understand the symbolism on the dollar.

    The pyramid is their meaning the the USA is a new world coming into formation. I shouldnt say new world cause you're gullible so a new country, a new beginning. Exactly the same as the original pyramid in Egypt meant.

    The Eye over the pyramid symbolizes the watchful eye of god protecting the new land.

    And the number 13 is because of the 13 colonies. It's not rocket science.


    They were never Illuminati symbols, they are ancient symbols mostly from Egypt but other cultures as well that are commonly used and over time some people have tied them into some freaky super secret society.

    ay, like i said, believe what you want, ill believe what i want. thats the benefit of a free country rite...

    oh, but one more thing..what do you have to say about the north american union(canada+N america & S america) coming into play in our life time...they already passed a bill for it. this voids the constitution. meaning that they will have to write a new one..what do u think is gonna be in the new constitution sir?
  • ThaChozenWunThaChozenWun Posts: 9,390
    edited September 2010
    BurninBush wrote: »
    ay, like i said, believe what you want, ill believe what i want. thats the benefit of a free country rite...

    oh, but one more thing..what do you have to say about the north american union(canada+N america & S america) coming into play in our life time...they already passed a bill for it. this voids the constitution. meaning that they will have to write a new one..what do u think is gonna be in the new constitution sir?

    You know the NAU is a hoax right? Just about everything on it has been shot down. Of course, you obviously don't seem to believe anyone who speaks within a governing system.

    If we did have one though I honestly wouldn't mind, what was proposed is not much different from the European union.
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