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Has Kendrick Been Around Long Enough For A Top 10 DOA Discussion?

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  • TheGOATTheGOAT El Coyote unknownGuests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 15,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheGOAT wrote: »
    TheGOAT wrote: »
    I mean look at his body of work to Biggies

    Ready To Die, Life After Death>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kendricks discography

    Kendrick dont have an album better than Ready to Die

    LAD isnt on RTD levels tho


    ....and i said that because the thread is asking if his body of work is large enough.

    Biggie only got 2 albums

    Kendrick basically got
    6


    And Biggie's 2 are still better than any of Kendrick's 6

    Quality over Quantity

    Nah i dont have LAD up there like most of yall do
  • IbexIbex Members Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Not Top 10 DOA
    You only been listening to rap since 2006 if Kendrick is in your top 10
  • Midwest_Journalist Midwest_Journalist Members Posts: 321 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    GKMC>Better than RTD & LAD


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  • Like WaterLike Water Integrity 1st Members Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Kendrick Is Not Top 10 DOA
    On a mainstream level, Kendrick is virtually unchallenged. He's a damn good artist (no pun), and one of my personal favorites atm, but who really challenges him? Drake? Cole? Sean? Nah. He's heads and shoulders above everyone in rap right now. I'm not counting Jay/Nas.

    Krit isn't really mainstream like that, but he's probably the closest to him, in terms of rapping ability and talent. When people cite rappers as top 10, those rappers were around when competition was thick and EVERYBODY could body you at any given moment.

    That much isn't true anymore. However, to act like Kendrick hasn't put out classic/great albums since he debuted would also be disingenuous. I think if he puts out another GKMC, or even DAMN, I'd start looking at those top 10 rankings a little closer.
  • bck145bck145 East CoastMembers Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    What does the landscape of hip hop have to do with the quality of kendricks music? What drake or cole is doing has nothing to do with the solid albums kendrick has released

    Find a rapper in history with a 4 album start as good as his....theres not many...even nas first 4 albums arent as good as kendricks...nas has longevity and consistency...no one is saying kendrick is at nas level...but hes on his way and has surpassed many rappers from the golden era already in terms of consistent quality

    You can take em and wayne and put together their best 4 albums from each of their whole careers and kendricks already better than both and they mentioned in ppls top 10s
  • dalyricalbanditdalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    Kendrick Is Not Top 10 DOA
    We all know four spots are 99% of the time taken with Jay Nas Big & Pac so that leaves 6 open slots.

    LL Cool J - Classic, Battle tested, and longevity

    Ice cube - same as LL and is consider the greatest west coast MC ever by some.

    Rakim - the name alone says it perhaps your fave rappers fave rapper

    Scarface - come on man


    That's 8 easy of top
  • GetoBoyGetoBoy M.O.B. Members Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Not Top 10 DOA
    Kdot benefits from the time he's rapping in I know 🤬 love Kdot but he suffers from the "LeBron in the East" treatment where his greatness is added on to by his competition of his time.... 🤬 be ready to call all his albums classic becuz ain't but like 5 mainstream new era rappers that can actually rap he's great no lie but top 10 let's see where he goes first
  • Soloman_The_WiseSoloman_The_Wise The Make It Happen Man... Puget SoundMembers Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He has the Potential to be but he is not there yet...
  • KingLuciano KingLuciano Members Posts: 476 ✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Not Top 10 DOA
    He's nice, but not yet. *shrugs*
  • 5 Grand5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bck145 wrote: »
    What does the landscape of hip hop have to do with the quality of kendricks music? What drake or cole is doing has nothing to do with the solid albums kendrick has released

    Find a rapper in history with a 4 album start as good as his....theres not many...even nas first 4 albums arent as good as kendricks...nas has longevity and consistency...no one is saying kendrick is at nas level...but hes on his way and has surpassed many rappers from the golden era already in terms of consistent quality

    You can take em and wayne and put together their best 4 albums from each of their whole careers and kendricks already better than both and they mentioned in ppls top 10s

    Kendrick doesn't rap as good as Nas.

    I'm not saying that Kendrick can't rap, but Nas is waaaaay better with the pen.

    Its like comparing Michael Jordan to Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer, but he's not the GOAT.
  • StewStew Rap Music Is My Religion HTTRMembers, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    How I feel...

    top 10 DOA is reserved for those artists
    who made it in before hip hop died

    all these new 🤬 got their own separate
    era. its very similar to how I compare MJ & Bron
    different eras. don't wanna get off topic

    so no he aint in THE top 10 DOA discussion
    yet, but he close, and he's definitely top 5 on
    the new list

    I had something like this typed out but forgot to post it. It's an Era thing, his music is going to get slightly overrated cause of his peers/competition. So to answer the question, yes he has been around long enough but imo his product isn't top 10 worthy.
  • bck145bck145 East CoastMembers Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    5 Grand wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    What does the landscape of hip hop have to do with the quality of kendricks music? What drake or cole is doing has nothing to do with the solid albums kendrick has released

    Find a rapper in history with a 4 album start as good as his....theres not many...even nas first 4 albums arent as good as kendricks...nas has longevity and consistency...no one is saying kendrick is at nas level...but hes on his way and has surpassed many rappers from the golden era already in terms of consistent quality

    You can take em and wayne and put together their best 4 albums from each of their whole careers and kendricks already better than both and they mentioned in ppls top 10s

    Kendrick doesn't rap as good as Nas.

    I'm not saying that Kendrick can't rap, but Nas is waaaaay better with the pen.

    Its like comparing Michael Jordan to Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer, but he's not the GOAT.

    Im not saying kendrick is the goat...but nas aint either....all im saying is kendricks career has started better than nas's did

    Top 10 is way different than one of the best ever
  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCMembers Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bck145 wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    What does the landscape of hip hop have to do with the quality of kendricks music? What drake or cole is doing has nothing to do with the solid albums kendrick has released

    Find a rapper in history with a 4 album start as good as his....theres not many...even nas first 4 albums arent as good as kendricks...nas has longevity and consistency...no one is saying kendrick is at nas level...but hes on his way and has surpassed many rappers from the golden era already in terms of consistent quality

    You can take em and wayne and put together their best 4 albums from each of their whole careers and kendricks already better than both and they mentioned in ppls top 10s

    Kendrick doesn't rap as good as Nas.

    I'm not saying that Kendrick can't rap, but Nas is waaaaay better with the pen.

    Its like comparing Michael Jordan to Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer, but he's not the GOAT.

    Im not saying kendrick is the goat...but nas aint either....all im saying is kendricks career has started better than nas's did

    Top 10 is way different than one of the best ever


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  • buttuh_bbuttuh_b Members Posts: 13,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    Y'all never even heard Kendrick Lamar EP or Overly Dedicated.. Plus untitled, unmastered is immaculate..

    🤬 yaself, you don't know 🤬 about music
  • bck145bck145 East CoastMembers Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    Broddie wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    What does the landscape of hip hop have to do with the quality of kendricks music? What drake or cole is doing has nothing to do with the solid albums kendrick has released

    Find a rapper in history with a 4 album start as good as his....theres not many...even nas first 4 albums arent as good as kendricks...nas has longevity and consistency...no one is saying kendrick is at nas level...but hes on his way and has surpassed many rappers from the golden era already in terms of consistent quality

    You can take em and wayne and put together their best 4 albums from each of their whole careers and kendricks already better than both and they mentioned in ppls top 10s

    Kendrick doesn't rap as good as Nas.

    I'm not saying that Kendrick can't rap, but Nas is waaaaay better with the pen.

    Its like comparing Michael Jordan to Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer, but he's not the GOAT.

    Im not saying kendrick is the goat...but nas aint either....all im saying is kendricks career has started better than nas's did

    Top 10 is way different than one of the best ever


    tumblr_o39x2fzeQc1tk48vko1_400.gif

    Most ppl have 4 rappers at the top...the end of the top 10 is always debated..so theres a big difference

    Its like saying lebron is the goat...but larry bird is 10th best player ever...larry not close to lebron in any aspect of the game....even tho hes still one of the best
  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCMembers Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bck145 wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    What does the landscape of hip hop have to do with the quality of kendricks music? What drake or cole is doing has nothing to do with the solid albums kendrick has released

    Find a rapper in history with a 4 album start as good as his....theres not many...even nas first 4 albums arent as good as kendricks...nas has longevity and consistency...no one is saying kendrick is at nas level...but hes on his way and has surpassed many rappers from the golden era already in terms of consistent quality

    You can take em and wayne and put together their best 4 albums from each of their whole careers and kendricks already better than both and they mentioned in ppls top 10s

    Kendrick doesn't rap as good as Nas.

    I'm not saying that Kendrick can't rap, but Nas is waaaaay better with the pen.

    Its like comparing Michael Jordan to Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer, but he's not the GOAT.

    Im not saying kendrick is the goat...but nas aint either....all im saying is kendricks career has started better than nas's did

    Top 10 is way different than one of the best ever


    tumblr_o39x2fzeQc1tk48vko1_400.gif

    Most ppl have 4 rappers at the top...the end of the top 10 is always debated..so theres a big difference

    Its like saying lebron is the goat...but larry bird is 10th best player ever...larry not close to lebron in any aspect of the game....even tho hes still one of the best

    Dog the point of a top 10 is a ranking of the 10 best to ever do it.
  • its....JOHN Bits....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea he been around long enough he’s just not good enough
  • bck145bck145 East CoastMembers Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    Broddie wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    What does the landscape of hip hop have to do with the quality of kendricks music? What drake or cole is doing has nothing to do with the solid albums kendrick has released

    Find a rapper in history with a 4 album start as good as his....theres not many...even nas first 4 albums arent as good as kendricks...nas has longevity and consistency...no one is saying kendrick is at nas level...but hes on his way and has surpassed many rappers from the golden era already in terms of consistent quality

    You can take em and wayne and put together their best 4 albums from each of their whole careers and kendricks already better than both and they mentioned in ppls top 10s

    Kendrick doesn't rap as good as Nas.

    I'm not saying that Kendrick can't rap, but Nas is waaaaay better with the pen.

    Its like comparing Michael Jordan to Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer, but he's not the GOAT.

    Im not saying kendrick is the goat...but nas aint either....all im saying is kendricks career has started better than nas's did

    Top 10 is way different than one of the best ever


    tumblr_o39x2fzeQc1tk48vko1_400.gif

    Most ppl have 4 rappers at the top...the end of the top 10 is always debated..so theres a big difference

    Its like saying lebron is the goat...but larry bird is 10th best player ever...larry not close to lebron in any aspect of the game....even tho hes still one of the best

    Dog the point of a top 10 is a ranking of the 10 best to ever do it.

    Yeah thanks...i didnt realize that...insert smh
  • N YO HOODN YO HOOD Members Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    You can't talk about body of work when a lot of the "goats"have one and two Classic Albums to their name
  • R.D.R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    🤬 just always going be glued to their moments and personal memories and fondness of artists

    Big Sean is one of the nicest 🤬 to ever pick up a mic...I ain't talking projects, discography. That's one of the nicest 🤬 to rap ever.

    You'd be a 🤬 fool to think I'm going sit here and listen to a 🤬 say Ice Cube is a better MC than him. When we start talking top rappers, ok then you have to account for accomplishments

    Kendrick is one of the nicest 🤬 to rap and got the accomplishments. But this 🤬 is subjective but saying 🤬 like he's not that nice or some other 🤬 🤬 is just befuddling

    I legit would want to know what you look for in drawing conclusions about music

    Stand somebody body of work next to his then, especially at this point



  • bck145bck145 East CoastMembers Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    R.D. wrote: »
    🤬 just always going be glued to their moments and personal memories and fondness of artists

    Big Sean is one of the nicest 🤬 to ever pick up a mic...I ain't talking projects, discography. That's one of the nicest 🤬 to rap ever.

    You'd be a 🤬 fool to think I'm going sit here and listen to a 🤬 say Ice Cube is a better MC than him. When we start talking top rappers, ok then you have to account for accomplishments

    Kendrick is one of the nicest 🤬 to rap and got the accomplishments. But this 🤬 is subjective but saying 🤬 like he's not that nice or some other 🤬 🤬 is just befuddling

    I legit would want to know what you look for in drawing conclusions about music

    Stand somebody body of work next to his then, especially at this point



    Agreed with everythibg except the big sean stuff....dude is ass on the mic
  • its....JOHN Bits....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    R.D. wrote: »
    🤬 just always going be glued to their moments and personal memories and fondness of artists

    Big Sean is one of the nicest 🤬 to ever pick up a mic...I ain't talking projects, discography. That's one of the nicest 🤬 to rap ever.

    You'd be a 🤬 fool to think I'm going sit here and listen to a 🤬 say Ice Cube is a better MC than him. When we start talking top rappers, ok then you have to account for accomplishments

    Kendrick is one of the nicest 🤬 to rap and got the accomplishments. But this 🤬 is subjective but saying 🤬 like he's not that nice or some other 🤬 🤬 is just befuddling

    I legit would want to know what you look for in drawing conclusions about music

    Stand somebody body of work next to his then, especially at this point



    this is what you’re doing right now
  • Midwest_Journalist Midwest_Journalist Members Posts: 321 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Kendrick Is Top 10 DOA
    R.D. wrote: »
    🤬 just always going be glued to their moments and personal memories and fondness of artists

    Big Sean is one of the nicest 🤬 to ever pick up a mic...I ain't talking projects, discography. That's one of the nicest 🤬 to rap ever.

    You'd be a 🤬 fool to think I'm going sit here and listen to a 🤬 say Ice Cube is a better MC than him. When we start talking top rappers, ok then you have to account for accomplishments

    Kendrick is one of the nicest 🤬 to rap and got the accomplishments. But this 🤬 is subjective but saying 🤬 like he's not that nice or some other 🤬 🤬 is just befuddling

    I legit would want to know what you look for in drawing conclusions about music

    Stand somebody body of work next to his then, especially at this point



    I agree.

    I was in middle school & high school when Biggie, 2Pac, Jay-Z, The Roc, Nas, Bad Boy, DMX, Ruff Ryders, Death Row, Snoop, Dre, Outkast was HUGE !!! The music (along with other artists) was the soundtrack of my teens (hanging out with friends, house parties, getting pulled over by the police for the first time, driving to a girl's house to ****, etc., etc.)

    Do I enjoy a lot of the new rappers today? - No (only about 50 % and that's being generous).

    But when a great artist (with G.O.A.T. potential) like Kendrick comes along, I don't have a problem with giving him props and saying he's on the same level (or better) as the people I mentioned before.

    Top 10? - YES.

  • 5 Grand5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree.

    I was in middle school & high school when Biggie, 2Pac, Jay-Z, The Roc, Nas, Bad Boy, DMX, Ruff Ryders, Death Row, Snoop, Dre, Outkast was HUGE !!! The music (along with other artists) was the soundtrack of my teens (hanging out with friends, house parties, getting pulled over by the police for the first time, driving to a girl's house to ****, etc., etc.)

    Do I enjoy a lot of the new rappers today? - No (only about 50 % and that's being generous).

    But when a great artist (with G.O.A.T. potential) like Kendrick comes along, I don't have a problem with giving him props and saying he's on the same level (or better) as the people I mentioned before.

    Top 10? - YES.

    I think thats how the younger generation feels about Young Thug, Lil Yachty, Lil Uzi Vert, Rich Homie Quan, Young M.A., Migos, Future, 2 Chainz, Nicki Minaj, etc.
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