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The Official 2017/18 Football/Soccer Thread

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  • HundredEyes HundredEyes Members Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    northside7 wrote: »
    Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao

    Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.

    I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.

    Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building 🤬 .

    Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.

    Different times man, Ferguson didn't win 🤬 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.

    Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...

    But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....🤬 first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.
  • TheRicanKingTheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Salah is soo good man.
  • TheRicanKingTheRicanKing Members Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes!!! Adam Lallana is back
  • dontdiedontkillanyondontdiedontkillanyon Show me some love, you losers. Members Posts: 10,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    northside7 wrote: »
    Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao

    Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.

    I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.

    Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building 🤬 .

    Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.

    Different times man, Ferguson didn't win 🤬 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.

    Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...

    But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....🤬 first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.

    Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for 🤬 knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a 🤬 board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.

    Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.

    Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.

    It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position.
  • HundredEyes HundredEyes Members Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    northside7 wrote: »
    Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao

    Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.

    I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.

    Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building 🤬 .

    Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.

    Different times man, Ferguson didn't win 🤬 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.

    Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...

    But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....🤬 first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.

    Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for 🤬 knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a 🤬 board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.

    Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.

    Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.

    It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position.

    All true but thats why times are different. Like northside said, Pep is expected to win the CL..while Jose, Wenger n Fergie werent even expected to win the league let alone the CL when they first started at Porto, Man U n Arsenal...no pressure whatsoever...

    Nowadays coaches at Crystal Palace (lol) and Everton are under the same pressure as a Real madrid coach lol. Mofos get sacked with the quickness.

    Unlike Wenger n Jose, Pep played top flight footy at Barca and could therefore start his coaching career at Barca B ..and moved on to other clubs with unlimited funds...instead of parking the bus like Fergie used to do and Jose does, he plays total footbal and got people saying its the the best prem team theyve ever seen.

    Again, look up Fergies stats...it took him 5 seasons to get things on track and turned into one of the legends in the game...all with unlimited resources at his disposal...started winning less when the likes of Chelsea and later city became high rollers...that's time modern day coaches like Pep won't get...look at Bosz, Tuchel, Koeman etc.

    🤬 Koeman is a great example...Fergie wasnt perfect and had some bad phases asswell...the board kept faith in him and gave him time - how it should be imo - while Koeman got sacked...

    Wenger is a goat for sure but half of those top 4 finishes were done during an era where (sans the season Blackburn won it) the prem was a two horse race between Arsenal n Man U...plus he didnt spent nothing, he spent wisely, when the markets were different - cheaper - and league lvls werent as different...copped Overmars for example....

    when Fergie rebuild a team he splashed the cash aswell...or we acting like he didnt break world transfer fees for Stam n Rio? One of his last signings was Van Persie beating unlimited funds city when Mancini n city really wanted the Persian...

    🤬 where the respect for Van Gaal at? He build a team full of youngsters with less resources than Fergies man U, 🤬 with not even half the budget Joses Porto had and won the treble without losing a single match...

    Excuze the titangraph lol
  • FigoFigo 100% Trinidadian MarylandMembers Posts: 8,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    northside7 wrote: »
    Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao

    Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.

    I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.

    Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building 🤬 .

    Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.

    Different times man, Ferguson didn't win 🤬 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.

    Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...

    But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....🤬 first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.

    Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for 🤬 knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a 🤬 board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.

    Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.

    Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.

    It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position.

    straight facts u saying about pep. That Mufuka pep been having money at his disposal for teams. Even when he took over Barcelona, same 🤬 .

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  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • blue_londonblue_london Members Posts: 2,387 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Came in to say man u your welcome to griezman
  • Valentinez A. KaiserValentinez A. Kaiser Members Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017

    I seriously can't believe this 🤬 !
    He will NEVER live this down regardless of any of his coonish black condoning smh
  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I seriously can't believe this 🤬 !
    He will NEVER live this down regardless of any of his coonish black condoning smh

    Gignac back on the French national team @chgarcia345 @French-Bad-Boy
  • Valentinez A. KaiserValentinez A. Kaiser Members Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Came in to say man u your welcome to griezman

    He'll most likely go to Barca unfortunately...
  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Social media exposing racists left and right
  • blue_londonblue_london Members Posts: 2,387 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Footballers continue to prove they are ignorant and just don't understand what going on with everyday life
  • blue_londonblue_london Members Posts: 2,387 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone who has Twitter at akala to educate him
  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • blue_londonblue_london Members Posts: 2,387 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down
  • Valentinez A. KaiserValentinez A. Kaiser Members Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    where's Evra to "kick racism out of his fellow frenchman"

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  • northside7northside7 Members Posts: 25,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down

    What happened?
  • CeLLaR-DooRCeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    northside7 wrote: »
    He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down

    What happened?

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  • toheeb27toheeb27 Members Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    northside7 wrote: »
    He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down

    What happened?

  • northside7northside7 Members Posts: 25,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can't tell me he doesn't know any better.

    That's a permanent stain on him.
  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Figo wrote: »
    northside7 wrote: »
    Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao

    Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.

    I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.

    Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building 🤬 .

    Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.

    Different times man, Ferguson didn't win 🤬 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.

    Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...

    But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....🤬 first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.

    Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for 🤬 knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a 🤬 board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.

    Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.

    Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.

    It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position.

    straight facts u saying about pep. That Mufuka pep been having money at his disposal for teams. Even when he took over Barcelona, same 🤬 .

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    Jose vs Pep spending

    The full breakdown of money spent and received can be seen below:

    *Not including add-ons. Only listing players who were sold or signed for a fee

    Manchester United

    Manchester United 2016-17 - Total net spend = £99.22m
    In – Total spent = 145.3m
    Eric Bailly - £30m
    Henrikh Mkhitaryan - £26.3m
    Paul Pogba - £89m

    Out - Total received = £46.08m
    Paddy McNair and Donald Love - combined £5.5m
    Tyler Blackett - £1.6m
    Will Keane - £1m
    James Weir - £180,000
    Morgan Schneiderlin - £24m
    Memphis Depay - £13.8m

    Manchester United 2017-18 - Total net spend = £138.3m
    In - Total spent = £146m
    Victor Lindelof - £31m
    Romelu Lukaku - £75m
    Nemanja Matic - £40m

    Out - Total received = £7.7m
    Adnan Januzaj - £7.7m
    Guillermo Varela - Undisclosed

    Manchester City

    Manchester City 2016-17 - Total net spend = £145.15m
    In - Total spent = £167.15m
    Ilkay Gundogan - £20m
    Nolito - £13.8m
    Oleksandr Zinchenko - £1.7m
    Leroy Sane - £37m
    Marlos Moreno - £4.75m
    John Stones - £47.5m
    Claudio Bravo - £15.4m
    Gabriel Jesus - £27m

    Out - Total received = £22m
    Edin Dzeko - £10.8m
    Stevan Jovetic - £12.2m
    Seko Fofana - £3.8m
    Florian Lejeune - £1.2m

    Manchester City 2017-18 - Total net spend = £142.05m
    In - Total spent = £198.7m
    Bernardo Silva - £43m
    Ederson - £34.9m
    Kyle Walker - £45m
    Danilo - £26.5m
    Benjamin Mendy - £49.3m

    Out - Total received = £56.65m
    Nolito - £7.65m
    Aleksandar Kolarov - £5.25m
    Kelechi Iheanacho - £25m
    Fernando - £4.75m
    Samir Nasri - £2m
    Wilfried Bony - £12m

    https://talksport.com/football/jose-mourinho-v-pep-guardiola-who-has-spent-most-money-they-took-charge-manchester-united
  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixMembers Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JOSE MOURINHO'S FULL LIST OF SIGNINGS 2004-2016
    Chelsea – 2004-05

    Paulo Ferreira (Porto) – £13.2m

    Mateja Kezman (PSV Eindhoven) – £5.5m

    Didier Drogba (Marseille) - £24m

    Tiago (Benfica) – £10m

    Ricardo Carvalho (Porto) – £19.8m

    Alex (PSV Eindhoven) – £5.7m

    Nuno Morais (Penafiel) – free

    Jiri Jarosik (CSKA Moscow) – £3m

    Total: £81.2m


    Chelsea – 2005-06

    Asier del Horno (Athletic Bilbao) – £8m

    Lassana Diarra (Le Havre) – £2m

    Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City) – £24m

    Michael Essien (Lyon) – £24.4m

    Total: £58.4m


    Chelsea – 2006-07

    Michael Ballack (Bayern Munich) – free

    Salomon Kalou (Feyenoord) – £3m

    Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan) – £30m

    John Obi Mikel (Lyn Oslo) – £16m

    Khalid Boulahrouz (Hamburg) – £9m

    Ashley Cole (Arsenal) - £5m + William Gallas

    Total: £63m


    Chelsea – 2007-08

    Claudio Pizarro (Bayern Munich) – free

    Tal Ben Haim (Bolton Wanderers) – free

    Steve Sidwell (Reading) – free

    Florent Malouda (Lyon) – £13.5m

    Juliano Belletti (Barcelona) – £3.7m

    Total: £17.2m

    Chelsea first spell total: £219.8m


    Inter Milan – 2008-09

    Hernan Crespo (Chelsea) – free

    Mancini (Roma) – £10.3m

    Luis Jimenez (Ternana) – £4.7m

    Sulley Muntari (Portsmouth) – £12.7m

    Ricardo Quaresma (Porto) – £14.7m + Pele

    Victor Obinna (Chievo) – free

    Total: £42.4m


    Inter Milan – 2009-10

    Diego Milito (Genoa) – £11.6m + Robert Acquafresca + Riccardo Meggiorini

    Thiago Motta (Genoa) – £3.6m + Francesco Bozoni + Leonardo Bonucci

    Kerlon (Chievo) – free

    Lucio (Bayern Munich) – £6.8m

    Samuel Eto’o (Barcelona) – £17.2m (transfer included Zlatan Ibrahimovic moving to Barcelona)

    Wesley Sneijder (Real Madrid) – £15.5m

    Goran Pandev (Lazio) – free

    McDonald Mariga (Parma) – £4.3m

    Total: £59m

    Inter Milan spell total: £101.4m



    Real Madrid – 2010-11

    Sergio Canales (Racing Santander) – £3.8m

    Angel Di Maria (Benfica) – £20.9m

    Pedro Leon (Getafe) – £8.4m

    Sami Khedira (Stuttgart) – £10m

    Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea) – £6.7m

    Mesut Ozil (Werder Bremen) – £12.5m

    Total: £62.3m


    Real Madrid – 2011-12

    Nuri Sahin (Borussia Dortmund) – £8.8m

    Hamit Altintop (Bayern Munich) – free

    Jose Callejon (Espanyol) – £4.4m

    Raphael Varane (Lens) – £8.8m

    Fabio Coentrao (Benfica) – £26.5m

    Total: £48.5m


    Real Madrid – 2012-13

    Luka Modric (Tottenham) – £33m

    Diego Lopez (Sevilla) – £3.2m

    Total: £36.2m

    Real Madrid spell total: £147m


    Chelsea – 2013-14

    Andre Schurrle (Bayern Leverkusen) – £18m

    Marco van Ginkel (Vitesse) – £9m

    Mark Schwarzer (Fulham) – free

    Willian (Anzhi Makhachkala) – £30m

    Samuel Eto’o (Anzhi Makhachkala) – free

    Kurt Zouma (St Etienne) – £12m

    Mo Salah (Basle) – £11m

    Total: £80m


    Chelsea – 2014-15

    Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona) – £30m

    Diego Costa (Atletico Madrid) – £35m

    Filipe Luis (Atletico Madrid) – £16m

    Didier Drogba (Galatasaray) – free

    Loic Remy (Queens Park Rangers) – £8m

    Juan Cuadrado (Fiorentina) – £27m

    Total: £116m


    Chelsea – 2015-16

    Asmir Begovic (Stoke City) – £8m

    Baba Rahman (Augsburg) – £21.7m

    Pedro (Barcelona) – £21m

    Kenedy (Fluminense) – £6.7m

    Papy Djilobodji (Nantes) – £2.2m

    Michael Hector (Reading) – £4m

    Marco Amelia (free agent) – free

    Total: £63.6m

    Chelsea second spell total: £259.6m


    Manchester United 2016-17

    Eric Bailly (Villarreal) – £30m

    Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Paris Saint-Germain) – free

    Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Borussia Dortmund) – £26m

    Paul Pogba (Juventus) – £100m

    Total: £156m


    Overall total: £883.8m
  • FigoFigo 100% Trinidadian MarylandMembers Posts: 8,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    northside7 wrote: »
    You can't tell me he doesn't know any better.

    That's a permanent stain on him.

    And with all those African close friends he has, and racism clashes in France, dude live in a bubble. This may be his wake up call
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