Is there anyone more complete/creative in Music than Eminem

ShadyTeamShadyTeam Members Posts: 4,894 ✭✭
edited August 2010 in The Reason
This thread isn't about wether Eminem is the best or sales or popularity but is there a more creative Artist in Music a complete Song maker like him?


Eminem Writes Lyrics, Produces Beat's, Mixes his tracks, performs & Sing's his Hook's, put's out Hit Singles, Executive Produces his Album's, play's the Keyboard, Programms Drum machine and does the engineering in the Studio


Even Ghost Writting if you look at the Chronic 2001 Dr Dre himself said Eminem Wrote alot of the records on that Album


You gotta look at live performance too so many Artists don't tour regularly but Eminem always tours when he put's out an Album
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  • coolc31coolc31 Members Posts: 517 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Kanye West
  • P. TownP. Town Members Posts: 27,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Kanye........................
  • ysl313ysl313 Members Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Kanye west catalogue > eminem
    it's simply more enjoyable

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  • birdcall89birdcall89 Members Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    weezy and kanye
  • Brian B.Brian B. Members Posts: 6,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    This thread isn't about wether Eminem is the best or sales or popularity but is there a more creative Artist in Music a complete Song maker like him?


    Eminem Writes Lyrics, Produces Beat's, Mixes his tracks, performs & Sing's his Hook's, put's out Hit Singles, Executive Produces his Album's, play's the Keyboard, Programms Drum machine and does the engineering in the Studio



    the underlined is really 3 things

    but you said 🤬 like "plays keyboard & drum machine" which is part of producing
  • ShadyTeamShadyTeam Members Posts: 4,894 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    coolc31 wrote: »
    Kanye West


    See Kanye West doesn't really perform Hook's or Sing on the Hook's like Eminem i'm not saying Kanye West doesn't ever do Hook's but he definitley gets features for Hook's and he will use Auto Tune as well


    Also Kanye West had help with Lyrics too Jesus Walks wasn't Written just by Kanye it was Co Written with someone else


    Kanye also samples more than Eminem as far as Beat making


    And i'm not sure if Kanye Mixes tracks either
  • 5th Letter5th Letter Black Identified Extremist Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    edited August 2010
    Yeah Kanye is more creative. He damn near a genius.
  • coolc31coolc31 Members Posts: 517 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    See Kanye West doesn't really perform Hook's or Sing on the Hook's like Eminem i'm not saying Kanye West doesn't ever do Hook's but he definitley gets features for Hook's and he will use Auto Tune as well


    Also Kanye West had help with Lyrics too Jesus Walks wasn't Written just by Kanye it was Co Written with someone else


    Kanye also samples more than Eminem as far as Beat making


    And i'm not sure if Kanye Mixes tracks either

    lol...you're funny...you name one song out of the 500 he's made. Plus, Kanye does plenty of his own hooks...just admit you don't listen to him
  • rosskemprosskemp Members Posts: 206
    edited August 2010
    who gives a 🤬 about hooks
  • BackInWhiteBackInWhite Members Posts: 23,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    yeah ima have to say kanye
    along with the fact that i can actually feel his music
  • ShadyTeamShadyTeam Members Posts: 4,894 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Not true if you check Album credits a Song can be Produced by someone but someone else could have got credits for MIxing or someone could have got credit for Programming the Drum machine


    Then you got your engineers in the Studio


    My point really is Eminem does everything and that's how it's been since 1999 when The Slim Shady LP came out
  • P. TownP. Town Members Posts: 27,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    I'm sorry, but how many times is eminem gon use that same production sound that always got me thinkin batman is about to show up somewhere
  • 5th Letter5th Letter Black Identified Extremist Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    edited August 2010
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    See Kanye West doesn't really perform Hook's or Sing on the Hook's like Eminem i'm not saying Kanye West doesn't ever do Hook's but he definitley gets features for Hook's and he will use Auto Tune as well

    he harmonizing/singing on this one.

    Also Kanye West had help with Lyrics too Jesus Walks wasn't Written just by Kanye it was Co Written with someone else

    I'll give you this one
    Kanye also samples more than Eminem as far as Beat making

    sampling is a staple of hip hop.


    And i'm not sure if Kanye Mixes tracks either

    Yeah he mixes tracks
  • drsnapppledrsnappple Members Posts: 185 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    This thread isn't about wether Eminem is the best or sales or popularity but is there a more creative Artist in Music a complete Song maker like him?


    Eminem Writes Lyrics, Produces Beat's, Mixes his tracks, performs & Sing's his Hook's, put's out Hit Singles, Executive Produces his Album's, play's the Keyboard, Programms Drum machine and does the engineering in the Studio


    Even Ghost Writting if you look at the Chronic 2001 Dr Dre himself said Eminem Wrote alot of the records on that Album


    You gotta look at live performance too so many Artists don't tour regularly but Eminem always tours when he put's out an Album

    Em isn't even touring. He said it's too much of a temptation in his sober lifestyle. Shut up about Em already you already know what peoples reaction is gonna be. If Eminem is so great how do you explain songs like "🤬 ." How could anyone ever like the song "🤬 "? I will give though that I like Em as a producer, I know Im in the minority but hes had some moments of greatness in producing.
  • ShadyTeamShadyTeam Members Posts: 4,894 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    coolc31 wrote: »
    lol...you're funny...you name one song out of the 500 he's made


    I named Jesus Walks but i know Kanye has had other Song's were people have Co Wrote it with him like i said Kanye will get people to do the Hook's on his Song's too


    Eminem Writes all his Song's, Sing's his Hook's, Produces the Beat's, Mixes the tracks, does the Drum Programming, Ghost Writes for Dr Dre
  • CMacCMac Members Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Yeah I gotta c/s Kanye too, he just keeps pushing music higher and higher.
  • coolc31coolc31 Members Posts: 517 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    I named Jesus Walks but i know Kanye has had other Song's were people have Co Wrote it with him like i said Kanye will get people to do the Hook's on his Song's too


    Eminem Writes all his Song's, Sing's his Hook's, Produces the Beat's, Mixes the tracks, does the Drum Programming, Ghost Writes for Dr Dre


    listen to his music...he does plenty of his own hooks...Jay-Z has written for Dre
  • ShadyTeamShadyTeam Members Posts: 4,894 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    I am aware Sampling is apart of Hip-Hop but you are more creative if you make a Beat from scratch like Eminem does


    It is easier to Sample


    You named one Song where Kanye is performing/Harmonozing the Hook but Eminem Sing's not just Harmonizes but actually Sing's almost every Hook on most his Song's where as Kanye uses features for Hook's alot
  • Meet The SniperMeet The Sniper Members Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Troll em, Shady.
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    See Kanye West doesn't really perform Hook's or Sing on the Hook's like Eminem i'm not saying Kanye West doesn't ever do Hook's but he definitley gets features for Hook's and he will use Auto Tune as well

    He's done hooks though. On every album. Without the Autotune.
    Also Kanye West had help with Lyrics too Jesus Walks wasn't Written just by Kanye it was Co Written with someone else

    And the rest of his catalouge that just 🤬 on Em?
    Kanye also samples more than Eminem as far as Beat making

    He also makes more beats than Em with and without samples.
    And i'm not sure if Kanye Mixes tracks either

    He does.
  • Brian B.Brian B. Members Posts: 6,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Not true if you check Album credits a Song can be Produced by someone but someone else could have got credits for MIxing or someone could have got credit for Programming the Drum machine


    Then you got your engineers in the Studio


    My point really is Eminem does everything and that's how it's been since 1999 when The Slim Shady LP came out



    you know thats a damn lie

    so... eminem did everything on the slim shady lp

    produced all the beats, did all the recording, mixed & mastered all the tracks?
  • ShadyTeamShadyTeam Members Posts: 4,894 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    coolc31 wrote: »
    listen to his music...he does plenty of his own hooks...Snoop & Jay-Z have written for Dre


    But not like Eminem where Eminem does all the Hook's on his Song's or features on a Tony Yayo Song for example to do the Hook


    I haven't heard Kanye West feature to do a Hook apart from that Camron Song



    Usually when Eminem features on a Song he will make the Beat and do the Hook to and Mix the track
  • ShadyTeamShadyTeam Members Posts: 4,894 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    Brian B. wrote: »
    you know thats a damn lie

    so... eminem did everything on the slim shady lp

    produced all the beats, did all the recording, mixed & mastered all the tracks?


    Every Song aside from My Name Is & Role Model were Produced by Eminem he didn't Mix and master all the Song's though
  • Mrslim1Mrslim1 Members Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    In all Music of course . In Hip Hop only a few Kanye being the easy choice , He just offers more musically than Em . Em is no slouch though
  • therealist_therealist_ Members Posts: 3,389 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
    kanye-west-glasses.jpg
    Mr. West is in the building
  • coolc31coolc31 Members Posts: 517 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    But not like Eminem where Eminem does all the Hook's on his Song's or features on a Tony Yayo Song for example to do the Hook


    I haven't heard Kanye West feature to do a Hook apart from that Camron Song



    Usually when Eminem features on a Song he will make the Beat and do the Hook to and Mix the track

    Is this what you're seriously holding on to? He does hooks when he makes a beat. I know you like Em, but damn. You can't convince me to think like you. If you think Em is he most creative, good for you. I respectfully agree to disagree.
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