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"Wii U is a Powerful, Powerful Machine...More Modern Tech Than 360/PS3"

focus
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edited May 2012 in IllGaming
Wii U Is A “Powerful, Powerful Machine”
Posted on May 25, 2012 by sickr

Gearbox senior producer Brian Burleson has openly described the Wii U as a “powerful, powerful machine”. Burleson explained that although he’s unable to talk about the specifications of Nintendo’s forthcoming console, he personally believes that Aliens Colonial Marines Wii U will ultimately be the best version of the game.

“[Creating the Wii U version] has been pretty easy. The Wii U is a powerful, powerful machine and it can do a lot of cool new things. And so the game itself, moving it over to work on the Wii U was not much of a chore.”

“Now the interesting thing is finding out all the cool ways you can use the controller to do new stuff with it. You can imagine all the cool things we can do, with this franchise and having a thing with you, right?”

“You can imagine some cool features, for sure,” Burleson said. “It’s not hard to imagine some cool features.”

The Wii U’s power, though, is “one thing I can’t talk about”, he said. “Actually nailing the specs, they haven’t come out with them yet.”

But, the Wii U version of Aliens will “be better” than the PS3 and Xbox 360 version in terms of visuals, he confirmed. Why? Because of “more modern tech”.

How, exactly, will it be better? “You’ll have to wait and see,” Burleson teased. “Just trust me on that one.”
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  • ocelot
    ocelot Members Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wii U Darksiders 2 graphics "at least as good" as PS3, Xbox 360 versions'
    By Wesley Yin-Poole Published 23 May, 2012
    Having inventory, map on the controller "will change people's perceptions".

    The graphics of the Wii U version of Darksiders 2 are "at least as good" as the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions', developer Vigil has said.

    Game companies and developers are under strict orders not to discuss the Wii U in detail publicly, a directive that has led to speculation about the horsepower of Nintendo's Wi successor. Indeed one report from earlier this year claimed the Wii U was "not as capable" as the PS3 and Xbox 360.

    But with final developer kits now with engineers, and Nintendo just two weeks away from unveiling the final version of the hardware at E3, Vigil has insisted Wii U owners will see visual parity when it comes to multiplatform games.

    "The visuals will be the same," associate producer Jay Fitzloff told Eurogamer. "It's still a work in progress. But I know, at least as good is the way to say it."

    In July last Vigil told Eurogamer it spent just five weeks in the run up to E3 2011 creating a working version of the action adventure game on Wii U. Then, Vigil said the Wii U had "plenty of horsepower", "so we're not going to have to make any visual concessions at all".

    At that time developers were working off of second generation Wii U dev kits - early versions of the console - and its horsepower was in flux. Then, game director Marvin Donald said, "If the Wii U turns out to be this ridiculously powerful machine, we will probably make changes to our budget and scope to take advantage of that." This hasn't happened.

    "[Getting Darksiders 2 working on Wii U] is not as challenging as you might think," Fitzloff said. "Getting it working was not any issue on the Wii U. It's just the control scheme. It's new territory. It's a new frontier. The Wii, after a while, there's a lot you could have done with the Wii controls, but everybody kind of got into a groove, and it became, here's how you handle this or here's how you handle this. Now it's the wild frontier. There's no set system. You've got to think outside the box because there's no precedence.

    "It's not getting the game working on the system. It's getting a cool control system that feels correct. And that's where we're at now."

    Vigil was even able to quickly get Darksiders 2 running with the Wii U controller, which can stream gameplay from the console.

    "When we first got it up and running, you can have the game download to and run on the pad, and everybody was like, that could take a while, little worried," Fitzloff explained. "It took a programmer two lines of code and five minutes. Working with it is not difficult."

    Darksiders 2 will use the Wii U controller in obvious ways - for inventory and map use - but the impact of these "no brainers" on gameplay is, according to Fitzloff, huge.

    "Any game would have their inventory on the controller screen," he said. "But even that little simple thing is a big difference because you never have to stop the game on the main screen. That will change people's perceptions because you've never had a game where you didn't have to.

    "They take you out [of the experience], whereas this just goes."

    He added: "And you're talking about the low hanging fruit. You're talking about the easy stuff. The rest of it is where the challenge comes in. What do we do beyond that that makes it feel natural and integral?"

    One developer working on Wii U, who wished to remain anonymous, told Eurogamer Wii U ports will at best look as good as PS3 and Xbox 360 games. However, he indicated gamers will only see its true graphics capabilities with games built from the ground up for Wii U later in its life cycle.

    For its part, Nintendo has said its focus with the Wii U is gameplay, not graphics. "We do not focus on technology specs," Nintendo said in March of this year. "We understand that people like to dissect graphics and processing power, but the experience of playing will always be more important than raw numbers."
  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lies.
  • ocelot
    ocelot Members Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's good about these articles is that we'll all see in two weeks...
  • CitySojourner
    CitySojourner Members Posts: 689 ✭✭✭✭
    Hearing about a brand new console being touted as "at least as good" as consoles that have been out for several years isn't the best endorsement. But i'll reserve judgement until I see some videos around e3.


    Does anyone know why 'judgement' comes up as incorrectly spelled here?
  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    nintendo wont dissapoint i think
  • ocelot
    ocelot Members Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I expect a Mario game, Zelda, WiiU Fit/ Play, and Smash Brothers with promises of having 3 party support and Better Online... Just like E3 06...

    I would like to see ZOE3 on it tho... But don't just a tacked on port
  • focus
    focus The #1 Nigga, I Don't Need No Hype. Members Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hearing about a brand new console being touted as "at least as good" as consoles that have been out for several years isn't the best endorsement. But i'll reserve judgement until I see some videos around e3.

    *sighs*

    "At least as good"...is a postive thing. If they said "its at most as powerful as current gen consoles", that would be the bad thing.
  • Sion
    Sion Moderator, Legion of Trill, AHH Content Producer, AHH Editor Members, Moderators, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 45,666 Regulator
    Hearing about a brand new console being touted as "at least as good" as consoles that have been out for several years isn't the best endorsement. But i'll reserve judgement until I see some videos around e3.


    Does anyone know why 'judgement' comes up as incorrectly spelled here?

    I peeped that a while back, the site follows U.S. English. The UK version spells it with an "e".

    Americanization of spelling for ya.....
  • Got Em Shook
    Got Em Shook Members Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad it wont be as powerful as the next gen Xbox and Playstation
  • CitySojourner
    CitySojourner Members Posts: 689 ✭✭✭✭
    focus wrote: »
    Hearing about a brand new console being touted as "at least as good" as consoles that have been out for several years isn't the best endorsement. But i'll reserve judgement until I see some videos around e3.

    *sighs*

    "At least as good"...is a postive thing. If they said "its at most as powerful as current gen consoles", that would be the bad thing.

    You ain't dropping knowledge so what the 🤬 you sighing for?! It's a subjective statement and I interpret "At least as good" as more of a positive spin. Considering this is the newest console it should graphically be beyond whatever standards older consoles had already set. So far all we've heard from game developers is that it's graphically not that impressive, "at least as good" is the best thing i've heard but that doesn't mean much. If he really thought it looked better he would have stated so, equating it to being on par with two consoles that are years old isn't really a good thing and doesn't necessarily mean it has the potential to be better.

    What if Sony came out with the PS4 and said it's at least as good as the PS3???


    Thanks for that @Sion., oddly enough i'm from the states but living overseas and somehow began spelling it the UK way.
  • joshuaboy
    joshuaboy Members Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hearing about a brand new console being touted as "at least as good" as consoles that have been out for several years isn't the best endorsement. But i'll reserve judgement until I see some videos around e3.


    Does anyone know why 'judgement' comes up as incorrectly spelled here?


    Depends on your Language settings. UK English and US English differ. Some words are spelt differently.

    Same with me. Like "spelt" above ............. lol
  • Recaptimus_Prime360
    Recaptimus_Prime360 Earned my Masters and Ph.d in Phat Booty-ology Members Posts: 64,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's fine and all, but how much 3rd party support will the wii u get? That's the question
  • focus
    focus The #1 Nigga, I Don't Need No Hype. Members Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You ain't dropping knowledge so what the 🤬 you sighing for?! It's a subjective statement and I interpret "At least as good" as more of a positive spin. Considering this is the newest console it should graphically be beyond whatever standards older consoles had already set. So far all we've heard from game developers is that it's graphically not that impressive, "at least as good" is the best thing i've heard...

    Thread title.
  • earth two superman
    earth two superman ladies please dont fight. E2S is here all night! Members Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ocelot wrote: »

    I would like to see ZOE3 on it tho... But don't just a tacked on port

    this would be kinda goat
  • [Trillmatic]
    [Trillmatic] Members Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    seems to me they are still competing with 2006 lol
  • imm0rt4l
    imm0rt4l Members Posts: 683 ✭✭✭
    UE4 not targeted at Wii U, is more suited to UE3.


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  • KINGOFDAARCADE
    KINGOFDAARCADE Members Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah... Wii U looks very powerful... much more modern tech than PS3 (6 year old system)

    NINTENDO_LAND_thumb.jpg

    project_p-100_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg



    No wonder 🤬 ass ford focus has disappeared.
  • Sion
    Sion Moderator, Legion of Trill, AHH Content Producer, AHH Editor Members, Moderators, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 45,666 Regulator
    Yeah... Wii U looks very powerful... much more modern tech than PS3 (6 year old system)

    NINTENDO_LAND_thumb.jpg

    project_p-100_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg



    No wonder 🤬 ass ford focus has disappeared.

    That's not a bad thing tho....

    None of Nintendo's games are graphical masterpieces. Nintendo is more concerned with gameplay something a lot of companies these days have forgotten. Nowadays 🤬 is just watching a 10 hour movie, they do everything for you and instruct you on where to go (i.e. FF13, Infamous, etc.). I'm all for nice graphics every now and then depending on the game but honestly how good do graphics have to be ? 🤬 if my mascot is cartoon character why would I try to make him and his cohorts as human-looking as possible ? If you tryna make games that are memorable you have to make them fun. Graphics will take u only so far until someone else tops it.

    What do you remember more ? the fact that Super Mario Bros 3 was the pinnacle of great graphics for it's time or how fun it was to play that joint when you were growin up ? Nintendo doesnt have to rely on good graphics to sell like Sony does & we all seen what happened to Sony and need I remind you Sega.....

    Just my 2 cents......
  • imm0rt4l
    imm0rt4l Members Posts: 683 ✭✭✭
    Nintendo can't compete on a technical level, they have the capital no doubt, but being on an even field with sony and ms means they lose. It's no wonder they forgo power nowadays. Gamecube was up to par, even more powerful than the ps2 and look how that 🤬 turned out. N64 was more powerful than the ps2 and that was beaten out by the new kid. Mix in the palpable resent from 3rd parties with an expensive price tag and you've got a giant L on your hands.
  • VulcanRaven
    VulcanRaven I don't knowMembers Posts: 18,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    imm0rt4l wrote: »
    Nintendo can't compete on a technical level, they have the capital no doubt, but being on an even field with sony and ms means they lose. It's no wonder they forgo power nowadays. Gamecube was up to par, even more powerful than the ps2 and look how that 🤬 turned out. N64 was more powerful than the ps2 and that was beaten out by the new kid. Mix in the palpable resent from 3rd parties with an expensive price tag and you've got a giant L on your hands.

    This is what I have been saying for years and their game engines are very poor.Even on the GC nothing from Nintendo was technically on the level of Gran Turismo, GOW or Shadow of the Colossus. Wind Waker felt so clunky and flat.
  • Sion
    Sion Moderator, Legion of Trill, AHH Content Producer, AHH Editor Members, Moderators, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 45,666 Regulator
    imm0rt4l wrote: »
    Nintendo can't compete on a technical level, they have the capital no doubt, but being on an even field with sony and ms means they lose. It's no wonder they forgo power nowadays. Gamecube was up to par, even more powerful than the ps2 and look how that 🤬 turned out. N64 was more powerful than the ps2 and that was beaten out by the new kid. Mix in the palpable resent from 3rd parties with an expensive price tag and you've got a giant L on your hands.
    Mad Jack wrote: »
    imm0rt4l wrote: »
    Nintendo can't compete on a technical level, they have the capital no doubt, but being on an even field with sony and ms means they lose. It's no wonder they forgo power nowadays. Gamecube was up to par, even more powerful than the ps2 and look how that 🤬 turned out. N64 was more powerful than the ps2 and that was beaten out by the new kid. Mix in the palpable resent from 3rd parties with an expensive price tag and you've got a giant L on your hands.

    This is what I have been saying for years and their game engines are very poor.Even on the GC nothing from Nintendo was technically on the level of Gran Turismo, GOW or Shadow of the Colossus. Wind Waker felt so clunky and flat.

    TRUE, but Sony and Microsoft "invented" the technology & tech hardware industry/era, have ruled that area for ages & most likely will for the next few generations. Nintendo definitely don't got the team to compete with technology the way Microsoft and Sony does that's why they want to focus on gameplay. Gamecube was poorly received but what held it up were fun games ppl enjoyed playing. Same for 64.

    The only thing I disagree with is the need for 3rd parties. They're Nintendo, they have their own franchises that people will buy into. If you open up to that, then at some point you gotta put your 🤬 on other competing consoles thing is, you lose creative control or end up in tug of wars with them & other people can see what you got coming and see use your techniques against you.
  • unspoken_respect
    unspoken_respect I will go where there's no path and leave behind a trail. TampaMembers Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2012
    I don't care so much about the graphics. You really have to look hard to see the difference between the PS3 and the 360. Most likely, the new Sony and Microsoft consoles graphics will be more power then the Wii U. I do care about how innovative the Wii U is. Sony and Microsoft will most likely copy Nintendo again but Nintendo has a head start on them.
  • Wild Self
    Wild Self Members Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The problem is that the consoles reached a point where graphics don't matter as much anymore. We damn near reached virtual reality and the budget in games are the same as movies. I ain't gonna spend $4-600 on a gaming console again
  • Bawse D.Lox
    Bawse D.Lox Members Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sion. wrote: »
    Yeah... Wii U looks very powerful... much more modern tech than PS3 (6 year old system)

    NINTENDO_LAND_thumb.jpg

    project_p-100_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg



    No wonder 🤬 ass ford focus has disappeared.

    That's not a bad thing tho....

    None of Nintendo's games are graphical masterpieces. Nintendo is more concerned with gameplay something a lot of companies these days have forgotten. Nowadays 🤬 is just watching a 10 hour movie, they do everything for you and instruct you on where to go (i.e. FF13, Infamous, etc.). I'm all for nice graphics every now and then depending on the game but honestly how good do graphics have to be ? 🤬 if my mascot is cartoon character why would I try to make him and his cohorts as human-looking as possible ? If you tryna make games that are memorable you have to make them fun. Graphics will take u only so far until someone else tops it.

    What do you remember more ? the fact that Super Mario Bros 3 was the pinnacle of great graphics for it's time or how fun it was to play that joint when you were growin up ? Nintendo doesnt have to rely on good graphics to sell like Sony does & we all seen what happened to Sony and need I remind you Sega.....

    Just my 2 cents......

    co 🤬 sign.

    and that's why next go round i'm getting a nintendo...

    xbox>>>> xbox 360
  • Melanin_Enriched
    Melanin_Enriched Your favorite basketball-american gentleman Members Posts: 22,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "more modern tech than 360/ps3"
    lolwut?
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