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Best Writer Vince Russo, Jim Cornette or Paul Heyman

genocidecutter
genocidecutter Members Posts: 17,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 2012 in Off The Turn Buckle
who in your opionion is the best writer. I vote for Paul Heyman
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  • Anti_matter
    Anti_matter Members Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cosign Paul E. Dangerously
  • Chi-Town Bully
    Chi-Town Bully Members Posts: 29,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul Heyman is the best. You saw how 🤬 Russo was when he took over WCW
  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    Paul Heyman
  • genocidecutter
    genocidecutter Members Posts: 17,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul Heyman is the best. You saw how 🤬 Russo was when he took over WCW

  • rabbitfood
    rabbitfood Members Posts: 486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul Heyman by default. Cornette is stuck in his ways and I'm surprised Russo is even a choice.
  • deadprezadentz
    deadprezadentz Members Posts: 106
    No Russo, no attitude era...
  • blackkevblazini
    blackkevblazini Members Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WTF at Russo being a choice.....Vince Russo is like the Tracey Lee, or Young MC,or Billy Bathgate of wrestling. That 🤬 had one good idea and then after that flopped harder than that Junior Mafia album without Lil Kim and Biggie.
  • TheBossman
    TheBossman It All Started With A StarterCoat Members Posts: 19,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    freddie prinze jr>>>>>russo

  • Recaptimus_Prime360
    Recaptimus_Prime360 Earned my Masters and Ph.d in Phat Booty-ology Members Posts: 64,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heyman
  • Chi-Town Bully
    Chi-Town Bully Members Posts: 29,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No Russo, no attitude era...

    Russo had more 🤬 ideas than he had good ideas during that time. Vince had to decline a bunch of Russo's ideas cause they were terrible.
  • Cymicaldane
    Cymicaldane The Danish OG Members Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cornette a choice? He aint no booker, never have been. All he have done is laying out matches and stuff (road agent stuff).

    So co sign for Heyman. Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara were terrible bookers (as the WCW stint proved) CT Bully explained it perfectly above me
  • mrcolbert031
    mrcolbert031 Members Posts: 197
    Vince Russo lol y'all remember when he gave davd arquette the strap lol paul e. All the way the three way dances between dreamer douglas and raven used to be goat
  • deadprezadentz
    deadprezadentz Members Posts: 106
    no russo, no attitude era...Brood, Godfather, DX, Mike Tyson, Stone Cold, Rock, Corporation, Nation of 🤬 , Hardy Boyz, Sable, Ken Shamrock, Mankind, etc etc...he created characters, and the Austin Vs Vince storyline...WCW...Billy Kidman, Mike Awesome, Cat, Booker T, Vampiro, Scott Steiner, Tank Abbot, (the 3 stages cage match) new Blood...etc etc...He did more right than wrong during his era in WCW the ratings went up...during his era in WWF the ratings where the highest ever & he was the reason they beat WCW...
  • TheBossman
    TheBossman It All Started With A StarterCoat Members Posts: 19,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no vince mcnahon, no attitude era...Brood, Godfather, DX, Mike Tyson, Stone Cold, Rock, Corporation, Nation of 🤬 , Hardy Boyz, Sable, Ken Shamrock, Mankind, etc etc...he created characters, and the Austin Vs Vince storyline...WCW...Billy Kidman, Mike Awesome, Cat, Booker T, Vampiro, Scott Steiner, Tank Abbot, (the 3 stages cage match) new Blood...etc etc...He did more right than wrong during his era in WCW the ratings went up...during his era in WWF the ratings where the highest ever & he was the reason they beat WCW...

    fixed homie. and when it came to wcw he screwed up the company so bad, and exposed himself as a fraud without vince.
  • deadprezadentz
    deadprezadentz Members Posts: 106
    edited August 2012
    TheBossman wrote: »
    no vince mcnahon, no attitude era...Brood, Godfather, DX, Mike Tyson, Stone Cold, Rock, Corporation, Nation of 🤬 , Hardy Boyz, Sable, Ken Shamrock, Mankind, etc etc...he created characters, and the Austin Vs Vince storyline...WCW...Billy Kidman, Mike Awesome, Cat, Booker T, Vampiro, Scott Steiner, Tank Abbot, (the 3 stages cage match) new Blood...etc etc...He did more right than wrong during his era in WCW the ratings went up...during his era in WWF the ratings where the highest ever & he was the reason they beat WCW...

    fixed homie. and when it came to wcw he screwed up the company so bad, and exposed himself as a fraud without vince.

    🤬 cant even spell the name right...smdh
    So Y cant V.M. do it now? Maybe b/c V.M. was nevah a writer. Y cant V.M. create new stars? b/c russo was the writer/creator...yall 🤬 dont know yall history...smh...& 🤬 u still didnt answer this question: why cant V.M. bring the rating back up like when Russo was there(WWF reached it highest rating with Russo)?______________________________.
    Russo created the Attitude Era when V.M. didnt know what to do & WCW was kicking there ass...Why u thing V.M. hired Russo? WCW was already f**ked up b4 Russo got there & when russo came WCW ratings went back up...AOL killed WCW...
    dumb maf**kaz...
  • Mister B.
    Mister B. Still the Devil's #1 Advocate. Come on out that box! Members, Writer Posts: 16,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2012
    Just read Russo's Wikipedia page. I didn't know he was that instrumental in the Attitude Era, but I did know that he almost single-handedly destroyed WCW in the last stages of it.

    So, Paul Heyman wins, cause Cornette never had control on that type of major level.
  • genocidecutter
    genocidecutter Members Posts: 17,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where's Russo now?

    Retired
  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight The Clairvoyant One.... Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2012
    Paul Heyman of course, but Vince Russo brought in the Attitude Era...
  • Peezy_Jenkins
    Peezy_Jenkins Sion Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 33,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heyman w/o question
  • Mally_G
    Mally_G Members Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heyman is the best booker and writer over the past 20 years.

    You all have to remember, the Attitude Era was a ripoff of ECW. ECW was a little promotion in the Eastern Region of the states, right under Stamford, CT. So it was easy for the WWF to steal ideas from ECW and put a tweaked version of ECW storylines, ideas, and characters on WWF TV and call it their own.

    The first ladder match in WWF history was a feeler to see how people responded to a ladder being legal and used throughout a match. ECW had been doing it for a while and any type of weapon use was normal during all matches. Once the word got out of the ladder match and how the people felt about it, Razor and HBK did a couple more on PPV, which went over well. Then the idea stealing and raiding commenced.

    Vince Russo didn't come up with any ideas; he simply ripped them off from ECW, put his twist on it, McMahon filtered the 🤬 out, and we still got some odd, but memorable characters out of it all. The extreme violence and language of WWF TV was nothing but what ECW had been doing for years. Once ECW started to fade because of financial issues and the talent raids, WCW jumped in and started doing the same thing that the WWF had already done a couple years before by mimicking ECW, but took Russo's word on that he was the cause of the Attitude Era and hired him, only to find out that he was a fraud.

    All these years, the people know who kept the WWF alive, indirectly, and provided WCW with talent to make them interesting, but never gave him credit, and that was Paul Heyman. From my understanding, the WWE just ran a poll or article that said Paul Heyman is the SMARTEST WWE superstar ever.
  • Cymicaldane
    Cymicaldane The Danish OG Members Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rumor has it thatVince Russo wanted to turn The Rock homosexual. Vince veto'ed this and a lot of other ideas
  • TheBossman
    TheBossman It All Started With A StarterCoat Members Posts: 19,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheBossman wrote: »
    no vince mcnahon, no attitude era...Brood, Godfather, DX, Mike Tyson, Stone Cold, Rock, Corporation, Nation of 🤬 , Hardy Boyz, Sable, Ken Shamrock, Mankind, etc etc...he created characters, and the Austin Vs Vince storyline...WCW...Billy Kidman, Mike Awesome, Cat, Booker T, Vampiro, Scott Steiner, Tank Abbot, (the 3 stages cage match) new Blood...etc etc...He did more right than wrong during his era in WCW the ratings went up...during his era in WWF the ratings where the highest ever & he was the reason they beat WCW...

    fixed homie. and when it came to wcw he screwed up the company so bad, and exposed himself as a fraud without vince.

    🤬 cant even spell the name right...smdh
    So Y cant V.M. do it now? Maybe b/c V.M. was nevah a writer. Y cant V.M. create new stars? b/c russo was the writer/creator...yall 🤬 dont know yall history...smh...& 🤬 u still didnt answer this question: why cant V.M. bring the rating back up like when Russo was there(WWF reached it highest rating with Russo)?______________________________.
    Russo created the Attitude Era when V.M. didnt know what to do & WCW was kicking there ass...Why u thing V.M. hired Russo? WCW was already f**ked up b4 Russo got there & when russo came WCW ratings went back up...AOL killed WCW...
    dumb maf**kaz...

    1. calm the 🤬 down.
    2. @ the bolded NO! russo stole it from ECW, um who created ECW?..................... PAUL HEYMAN! shut the 🤬 up.
  • deadprezadentz
    deadprezadentz Members Posts: 106
    edited August 2012
    Just read Russo's Wikipedia page. I didn't know he was that instrumental in the Attitude Era, but I did know that he almost single-handedly destroyed WCW in the last stages of it.

    So, Paul Heyman wins, cause Cornette never had control on that type of major level.
    🤬 you didnt even know he was involved with the attitude ear so how can u say he almost single-handedly destroyed WCW...I remember WCW,,,he actually made it better...AOL Killed WCW & if u want to put the blame on somebody that bad I would have to say Bischoff did it. He was giving people like Nash, & Hogan to much power prior to Russo coming in...Thats why Russo screwed Hogan b/c he was tryna get rid of the old wrestlers & give the younger generation a chance (like he did for WWF). Stone Cold 🤬 Foley, etc etc left WCW b/c they werent giving a chance...Russo gave them a chance in WWF.
    Oh yeah...& russo created DX...& russo made wrestling unpredictable...even brought nudity to wrestling...& he took wrestling outside the arenas...& allowed male wrestlers to fight female wrestlers....

    Hogan getting screwed: starts at 6:30 mark

    Russo didnt create matches? 🤬 🤬 yahself...3 cages of hell, TLC, First Blood, Graveyard match, hell in the Cell etc, etc...

    guess who wrote this storyline:


    UNdertaker hangs big bossman


    Paul just had violence period...ECW storyline wasnt great either...mafuckas tryna rewrite history up here.

  • TheBossman
    TheBossman It All Started With A StarterCoat Members Posts: 19,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just read Russo's Wikipedia page. I didn't know he was that instrumental in the Attitude Era, but I did know that he almost single-handedly destroyed WCW in the last stages of it.

    So, Paul Heyman wins, cause Cornette never had control on that type of major level.
    🤬 you didnt even know he was involved with the attitude ear so how can u say he almost single-handedly destroyed WCW...I remember WCW,,,he actually made it better...AOL Killed WCW & if u want to put the blame on somebody that bad I would have to say Bischoff did it. He was giving people like Nash, & Hogan to much power prior to Russo coming in...Thats why Russo screwed Hogan b/c he was tryna get rid of the old wrestlers & give the younger generation a chance (like he did for WWF). Stone Cold 🤬 Foley, etc etc left WCW b/c they werent giving a chance...Russo gave them a chance in WWF.
    Oh yeah...& russo created DX...& russo made wrestling unpredictable...even brought nudity to wrestling...& he took wrestling outside the arenas...& allowed male wrestlers to fight female wrestlers....

    Hogan getting screwed: starts at 6:30 mark

    Russo didnt create matches? 🤬 🤬 yahself...3 cages of hell, TLC, First Blood, Graveyard match, hell in the Cell etc, etc...

    guess who wrote this storyline:


    UNdertaker hangs big bossman


    Paul just had violence period...ECW storyline wasnt great either...mafuckas tryna rewrite history up here.

    smh.. either your a WCW fan boy or your just dumb.


    going through the bolded in order
    1. he joined wcw in 1999, i remember wcw well back then and it sucked ass. it was terrible. russo didn't make wcw better, he put the nail in the coffin, way before aol merger killed wcw.
    2. so by your rules, you say bischoff was the death of wcw, but you can't give him credit for everything before russo got their in 99? creativly bischoff did more for wcw than russo ever did. bringing in the top talent, making the company money, creating the NWO, goldberg. but that means nothing to you? but lets praise russo for the attitude ever he stole for heyman??? come on cuz....
    3. dx was already created, it was called the cliq....... russo AND vince just gave it a marketable name.
    4. all paul heyman and ecw's ideas first.


    so to sum it up, paul heyman wins.
  • TheBossman
    TheBossman It All Started With A StarterCoat Members Posts: 19,796 ✭✭✭✭✭


    we got this...




























    STOP IT!!!
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