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Attack of the clones ~ No Sifo-Dyas

Drew_AliDrew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 2013 in The Social Lounge
Immortal Line of Cloned Mice Created
Tanya Lewis, LiveScience Staff Writer
Date: 08 March 2013 Time: 03:13 PM ET

Watch out, George Lucas, there's a new attack of the clones, and these ones are furry.

Japanese researchers have created a potentially endless line of mice cloned from other cloned mice. They used the same technique that created Dolly the sheep to produce 581 mice from an original donor mouse through 25 rounds of cloning, the scientists report in the March 7 issue of the journal Cell Stem Cell.
http://www.livescience.com/27759-immortal-cloned-mice-created.html

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"Our results show that repeated iterative recloning is possible and suggest that, with adequately ef?cient techniques, it may be possible to reclone animals inde?nitely," the authors wrote in the study.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=immortal-line-of-cloned-mice

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  •   Colin$mackabi$h Colin$mackabi$h Smartass Snatch Money ave.Members Posts: 16,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dis some 🤬 .............
    More u.s. money wasted
  • Gold_CertificateGold_Certificate Members Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cloning is ok, eventually humans will be cloned..........
    This is great.
  • cobblandcobbland "Shorty": Belly (1998) Chicago...Members Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    ***I printed this article from Reuters.com in February of 2004*** but it's still available here:
    Stem cells extracted from human clone
    First published report of procedure called a 'medical milestone'


    msnbc.com staff and news service reports
    updated 2/12/2004 4:27:11 PM ET


    WASHINGTON — South Korean and U.S. researchers said Wednesday they had cloned a human embryo and extracted from it sought-after cells called embryonic stem cells. The cloning was not intended to make human babies, but the first step toward developing cures for diabetes, Parkinson's and other diseases, the researchers said.

    The experiment, the first published report of cloned human stem cells, means so-called therapeutic cloning is no longer a theory but a reality. Supporters of medical cloning say it can transform medicine, offering tailored and highly effective treatments for diseases. They say it could eventually lead to grow-your-own 🤬 transplants.

    The stem cells taken from the tiny embryos, known as blastocysts, have the potential to develop into any kind of cell or tissue in the body.

    “Our approach opens the door for the use of these specially developed cells in transplantation medicine,” Woo Suk Hwang of Seoul National University in Korea, who led the study, said in a statement. Funding for the experiments came from a private donor, whom Hwang did not name.

    'A very impressive study'
    Outside experts on cloning praised the work. “It is a very impressive study. It obviously represents a major medical milestone,” said Dr. Robert Lanza, who has helped lead cloning experiments at Massachusetts company Advanced Cell Technology. “I think it could help spur a medical revolution.”

    Working with Hwang was Dr. Jose Cibelli, formerly of Advanced Cell Technology and now a researcher at Michigan State University. Hwang has conducted extensive research in the field of cloning and is currently working to preserve the Korean tiger as well as to develop a miniature pig and cattle resistant to mad cow disease.


    Wednesday's report is sure to revive international controversy over whether to ban all human cloning. Critics say it involves destroying a human embryo, however tiny, and is thus unethical. The administration of President Bush and supporters in Congress are seeking to outlaw the technology both in the United States and worldwide.
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    Scientists have cloned sheep, cattle, mice and other species but have had trouble cloning a human being. Last year Advanced Cell Technology said it had created a human cloned embryo but it had not grown enough to become a source of stem cells.

    The company is still trying but has not reported publicly on its progress.

    Embryonic stem cells are the body’s building blocks, cells from which all other tissue types spring. They’re present in an embryo only days after conception and are ethically sensitive because culling stem cells destroys the embryo.

    Writing in the journal Science, Hwang and colleagues said they created the clone using eggs and cumulus cells donated by Korean women. Cumulus cells are found in the ovaries and in some species have been found to work especially well in cloning experiments.

    The researchers said they also tried to use cells taken from men, specifically the ear lobes, but did not have any success. So, for now, this cloning process can be used only with women.

    Powerful master cells
    Stem cells are found throughout the body and are a kind of master cell. But adult stem cells are difficult to find and to work with.

    Many scientists believe blastocysts -- stem cells taken from days-old embryos -- have much greater potential. Each one, when grown correctly, can be directed to become any kind of cell or tissue at all.

    The researchers used a process called nuclear transfer, which involves removing the nucleus from an egg cell and replacing it with the nucleus of a so-called adult cell -- in this case a cumulus cell.

    The scientists say they succeeded largely because of using extremely fresh eggs donated by South Korean volunteers and gentler handling of the genetic material inside them.

    At a press conference Thursday at the annual conference of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, held this year in Seattle, Hwang said he did not think it would be easy for other researchers to duplicate the technique. "In my humble opinion, it's not so easy to imitate our technology because the human oocyte (or egg) is very sticky."

    In the experiment, Hwang and his colleagues cloned each woman using her own egg cell and her own cumulus cell, so the clones were 100 percent copies of each woman.

    They activated the egg cells using a chemical process, which started the eggs growing as if they had been fertilized by a sperm and got 30 embryos to grow to the blastocyst stage.

    At this stage, approximately 100 cells, the stem cells should be removable.

    The history of cloningThey pulled stem cells from one of the blastocysts and managed to get them to grow into a variety of different cells including eye cells, muscle cells, bone and cartilage.

    It’s elegant work that provides long-anticipated proof that human therapeutic cloning is possible, said stem-cell researcher Dr. Rudolf Jaenisch of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research in Cambridge, Mass.

    Still, “it’s not of practical use at this point,” Jaenisch cautioned.

    Years of additional research are required before embryonic stem cell transplants could be considered in people, he stressed.

    Ban sought on reproductive cloning
    Still it’s sure to renew debate over whether all forms of human cloning should be banned. The House last year voted to do that, but the Senate stalled over whether there should be an exception for some research.

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    Seoul National Univ. via Reuters
    South Korean and U.S. researchers said on Wednesday they had cloned a human embryo and extracted from it sought-after cells called embryonic stem cells.


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    Seoul National Univ. via Reuters
    This microscopic photo shows an injection of a somatic cell into a nuclear removed-human egg cell during an experiment in Seoul.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4244988/#.UTvnhWeNMWQ
  • cobblandcobbland "Shorty": Belly (1998) Chicago...Members Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Reuter's article from 2004 mentioned a Dr. Panos Zavos, who in 2009 proclaimed that he cloned a human fully (if you take his word for it).
    Scientists get sought-after cells from human clone
    By Maggie Fox, Reuters

    They cloned each woman using her own egg cell and her own cumulus cell, so the clones were 100% copies of each woman.

    They activated the egg cells using a chemical process, which started the eggs growing as if they had been fertilized by a sperm and got 30 embryos to grow to the blastocyst stage.

    At this stage, approximately 100 cells, the stem cells should be removable.

    They pulled stem cells from one of the blastocysts and managed to get them to grow into a variety of different cells including eye cells, muscle cells, bone and cartilage.

    Lanza said it is now important that laws be passed banning reproductive cloning — using cloning to create a human baby.

    He noted that some researchers, notably Kentucky fertility expert Dr. Panos Zavos, have been at least trying to clone a baby. "He's got the cookbook now. It's scary. We really need to move as soon as possible," Lanza said.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2004-02-11-embryo-clone_x.htm

    I've cloned a human: Extraordinary claims of a doctor who 'has implanted embryos into four women'

    By Fay Schlesinger
    UPDATED: 11:17 EST, 22 April 2009

    A controversial doctor has claimed to have cloned human embryos and transferred them to four women prepared to give birth to the first cloned babies.

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    'The cloned child is coming': Fertility specialist Panayiotis Zavos claims he has already cloned human embryos

    Fertility specialist Panayiotis Zavos sensationally broke the sacred taboo of human individuality by cloning 14 embryos and placing 11 of them into the wombs of four women, he told The Independent.

    A British woman was alleged to be among the one single and three married patients who were said to be happy to become pregnant with the first cloned embryos specifically created for the purpose of human reproduction.

    The other women came from the United States and an unidentified country in the Middle East.

    A documentary-maker told The Independent that he filmed the process as evidence that cloning took place, with the consent of the women.

    The process, which is illegal in Britain and many other countries, was probably carried out in a secret laboratory in the Middle East, where cloning is not banned.

    None of the embryo transfers led to a pregnancy but Dr Zavos, a naturalised American who runs fertility clinics in Kentucky and Cyprus, where he was born, said yesterday that this was just the 'first chapter' in his serious attempts at producing a baby cloned from the skin cells of its 'parent'.

    He said: 'There is absolutely no doubt about it, and I may not be the one that does it, but the cloned child is coming. There is absolutely no way that it will not happen.'

    'If we intensify our efforts we can have a cloned baby within a year or two, but I don't know whether we can intensify our efforts to that extent.

    'We're not really under pressure to deliver a cloned baby to this world. What we are under pressure to do is to deliver a cloned baby that is a healthy one.'

    His claims are certain to be denounced by mainstream fertility scientists, who tried to gag Dr Zavos by asking the British media not to give him publicity without him providing evidence to back up his statements in 2004.

    Despite a lower profile over the past five years, scores of couples are said to have approached Dr Zavos hoping that he will help them to overcome their infertility by using the same cloning technique that was used to create Dolly the sheep in 1996.

    He said: 'I get enquiries every day. To date we have had over 100 enquiries and every enquiry is serious. The criteria is that they have to consider human reproductive cloning as the only option available to them after they have exhausted everything else.'

    'We are not interested in cloning the Michael Jordans and the Michael Jacksons of this world. The rich and the famous don't participate in this.'

    It took 277 attempts to create Dolly but since then the cloning procedure in animals has been refined and it has now become more efficient, although most experts in the field believe that it is still too dangerous to be allowed as a form of human fertility treatment.

    Dr Zavos dismissed these fears saying that many of the problems related to animal cloning – such as congenital defects and oversized offspring – have been minimised.

    CADY, THE LITTLE GIRL KILLED IN 2002 CAR CRASH WHO COULD 'LIVE' AGAIN AS A CLONE

    She died at the age of ten in a horrific car crash, but now the little girl known only as Cady could be brought back to life by controversial fertility expert Panayiotis Zavos.

    He froze some of her blood cells after her death in August 2002, and combined them with cow eggs to create a human-animal hybrid embryo.

    Cady's mother said she was happy for the cells to be implanted in a human 🤬 if there was a chance of a clone of her child being born.

    article-1172587-04980FFD000005DC-364_468x286.jpg
    Life after death: Cady, seen here as a baby, died when she was ten but could be recreated as a clone

    'Cady was simply everything to me,' she said.

    'If there is one chance in a billion that it would work, of course I want to do that.

    'This is for Cady. This is a mother expressing love for a daughter and trying to give her daughter life.

    What I am doing is trying to give her biological presence in this world continuation.'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1172487/Ive-cloned-human-Astonishing-claims-doctor-implanted-embryos-women.html
  • edwardnigmaedwardnigma Members Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    People die and get reborn all the time people are just ignorant to spirituality

  • TheIraqTheIraq Members Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    I hope George Lucas sues you for this thread title......................................
  • TheIraqTheIraq Members Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    People die and get rebirn all the people just are ignorant to spirituality


    I usually use the word "reborn"...... Is "rebirn" a word something young people say or was your spelling just off?????????????

  • edwardnigmaedwardnigma Members Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheIraq wrote: »
    People die and get rebirn all the people just are ignorant to spirituality


    I usually use the word "reborn"...... Is "rebirn" a word something young people say or was your spelling just off?????????????

    Have u heard of a typo or are u just that petty?

  • TheIraqTheIraq Members Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    TheIraq wrote: »
    People die and get rebirn all the people just are ignorant to spirituality


    I usually use the word "reborn"...... Is "rebirn" a word something young people say or was your spelling just off?????????????

    Have u heard of a typo or are u just that petty?



    Stop being a 🤬 ass 🤬 and you might some get hoes........................ Typo and petty LMAO...........



    Edit: You didnt even make the thread lol 🤬 pull your panties up and stop being a 🤬 ...... Go sit your monkey ass down somewhere.... Ol' cry baby ass 🤬 ......................

  • CashmoneyDuxCashmoneyDux Members Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    🤬 would get really 🤬 up really fast if they figured out how to clone humans.
  • edwardnigmaedwardnigma Members Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i see you a internet warrior.ok there buddy,you told me.lol,smh
  • Drew_AliDrew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    🤬 would get really 🤬 up really fast if they figured out how to clone humans.

    @cobbland just provided evidence that they were already cloning humans............



  • edwardnigmaedwardnigma Members Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They wont announce it when they clone somebody.



  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cloning is ok, eventually humans will be cloned..........
    This is great.

  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionMembers Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dis some 🤬 .............
    People die and get reborn all the time people are just ignorant to spirituality

    die and being reborn is different then trying to play YHWH

  • GhostdenithegawdGhostdenithegawd Up from da 36 chambers HarlemMembers Posts: 16,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Soon rappers iwll get hold of this and start cloning famous hoes and start celebrity cloned hoe farms
  • Drew_AliDrew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Human cloning 'within 50 years'

    Parents who lose children in accidents may be able to clone "copies" to replace them within 50 years, a British scientist who won this year's Nobel prize for medicine has predicted.


    Sir John Gurdon, whose work cloning frogs in the 1950s and 60s led to the later creation of Dolly the sheep by Edinburgh scientists in 1996, said that progression to human cloning could happen within half a century.

    Although any attempt to clone an entire human would raise a host of complex ethical issues, the biologist claimed people would soon overcome their concerns if the technique became medically useful.

    In-vitro fertilisation was regarded with extreme suspicion when it was first developed but became widely accepted after the birth of Louise Brown, the first "test tube baby", in 1978, he explained.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p9ks8

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9753647/Human-cloning-within-50-years.html



  • WYRMWYRM The Dude Abides...Members Posts: 993 ✭✭✭✭
    Cloning is ok, eventually humans will be cloned..........
    Cloning is going to happen, it's another new technology and cloning humans just another discovery. I think it's awesome, for better or worse.
  • edwardnigmaedwardnigma Members Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    People die and get reborn all the time people are just ignorant to spirituality

    die and being reborn is different then trying to play YHWH

    Lol 🤬 that comment is against cloning.

    Im trying to say if we get reborn cloning is unnecesary.

  • 2 Drawlz2 Drawlz Members Posts: 777 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cloning is ok, eventually humans will be cloned..........
    🤬 crying about overpopulation, but wanna clone muthafuckaz.... ain't that a 🤬
  • Drew_AliDrew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    2 Drawlz wrote: »
    🤬 crying about overpopulation, but wanna clone muthafuckaz.... ain't that a 🤬


    Ahhhhhhhh......

    Where was I ???????

    Oh yes.........





    This leads directly into another question...............

    Bringing Them Back to Life
    The revival of an extinct species is no longer a fantasy.
    But is it a good idea?


    01-bucardo-670.jpg

    On July 30, 2003, a team of Spanish and French scientists reversed time. They brought an animal back from extinction, if only to watch it become extinct again.

    De-extinction is now within reach.

    “It’s gone very much further, very much more rapidly than anyone ever would’ve imagined,” says Ross MacPhee, a curator of mammalogy at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. “What we really need to think about is why we would want to do this in the first place, to actually bring back a species.”

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/04/species-revival/zimmer-text

  • bambubambu *Earth & Water* Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scientists Clone Human Embryos To Make Stem Cells

    Michaeleen Doucleff
    May 15, 2013

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/05/15/183916891/scientists-clone-human-embryos-to-make-stem-cells


    Scientists say they have, for the first time, cloned human embryos capable of producing embryonic stem cells.

    The accomplishment is a long-sought step toward harnessing the potential power of embryonic stem cells to treat many human diseases. But the work also raises a host of ethical concerns.

    "This is a huge scientific advance," said , a Harvard stem cell scientist who wasn't involved in the work. "But it's going to, I think, raise the specter of controversy again."

    The controversy arises from several factors. The experiments involve creating and then destroying human embryos for research purposes, which some find morally repugnant. The scientists also used cloning techniques, which raise concerns that the research could lead to the cloning of people.

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  • edwardnigmaedwardnigma Members Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are brown mice...that means theres melanin...its conducive to the sun

    Questions

    Can it reproduce?

    Can they do the same with white mice?
  • CracceRCracceR ૐ☯★♑☮⌘ Members Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    2 Drawlz wrote: »
    🤬 crying about overpopulation, but wanna clone muthafuckaz.... ain't that a 🤬


    Ahhhhhhhh......

    Where was I ???????

    Oh yes.........





    This leads directly into another question...............

    Bringing Them Back to Life
    The revival of an extinct species is no longer a fantasy.
    But is it a good idea?


    01-bucardo-670.jpg

    On July 30, 2003, a team of Spanish and French scientists reversed time. They brought an animal back from extinction, if only to watch it become extinct again.

    De-extinction is now within reach.

    “It’s gone very much further, very much more rapidly than anyone ever would’ve imagined,” says Ross MacPhee, a curator of mammalogy at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. “What we really need to think about is why we would want to do this in the first place, to actually bring back a species.”

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/04/species-revival/zimmer-text

    I think they workin on the mammoth right now, 🤬 great

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