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The Official 2013-2014 NBA Offseason Thread
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jazzybella wrote: »Alpha Outlaw wrote: »jazzybella wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »Breh...I just started watching The Wire a week ago...all these references yall make are starting to make sense to me lol...show is GOAT
What season you on?
Just so you know...
Season 4 = GOAT.
A quarter into Season 2.
And S-2 is probably the weakest season.
I would rank the seasons like...
1. S-4
2. S-3
3. S-5
4. S-1
5. S-2
Where are yall finding the episodes? On hulu?
From watching on HBO..
Matter of fact, I bought the entire series off amazon for $80 like 2 weeks ago to rewatch the whole thing and Im halfway through season 5
That serial killer angle is alot funnier then I remember it being from when I first watched. They 🤬 up from the newspaper POV though
That was a great price. I only remember like the important stuff like. The rest of the seasons I had to read up on
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P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
yall lost the right to say that after bashing Pau for 3 years and always wanting to trade him.... he was the scapegoat before Dwight....
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P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
yall lost the right to say that after bashing Pau for 3 years and always wanting to trade him.... he was the scapegoat before Dwight....
this 🤬 is g.o.a.t worthy. Never forget... -
forgot Houston had Terrance Jones too.... If he develops along with Parsons they gonna be good. Carter Williams with Philly has a big upside
Yes sir. Not trynna overrate my squad because I don't think we'll finish higher than 4th in the west. But I think people are forgetting harden is 23, parsons is 24, lin is 24, etc. More than likely all we're going to do is get better... -
P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
yall lost the right to say that after bashing Pau for 3 years and always wanting to trade him.... he was the scapegoat before Dwight....
Dawg stop taking what Espn says as what real lakers fans think....
Pau was criticized for 2011 against hornets and mavs, that's it...and he deserved it
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t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
yall lost the right to say that after bashing Pau for 3 years and always wanting to trade him.... he was the scapegoat before Dwight....
this 🤬 is g.o.a.t worthy. Never forget...
this is why im taking up a lil for Dwight... in LA its always everyone elses fault when they lose and everyone should be traded or amnestied.... the 3 7 footers were huge on the boards and rebounding/defense for LA winning back to back titles.... but once it broke up it was 🤬 Bynum and 🤬 Gasol Artest hits big 3 vs Boston and its amnesty him lol.... Dantoni had Gasol out the rotation when he complained about not being used right and having to shoot 3s and 🤬 in this offense but Dwight 🤬 em off and now its Paul>>>Dwight gtfoh lol.... best believe had Dwight resigned with LA there would be none of this talk -
t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
yall lost the right to say that after bashing Pau for 3 years and always wanting to trade him.... he was the scapegoat before Dwight....
this 🤬 is g.o.a.t worthy. Never forget...
this is why im taking up a lil for Dwight... in LA its always everyone elses fault when they lose and everyone should be traded or amnestied.... the 3 7 footers were huge on the boards and rebounding/defense for LA winning back to back titles.... but once it broke up it was 🤬 Bynum and 🤬 Gasol Artest hits big 3 vs Boston and its amnesty him lol.... Dantoni had Gasol out the rotation when he complained about not being used right and having to shoot 3s and 🤬 in this offense but Dwight 🤬 em off and now its Paul>>>Dwight gtfoh lol.... best believe had Dwight resigned with LA there would be none of this talk
Doesn't live in LA post....you have no idea the pulse of the city and opinions of the real fans...we were on the fence but after that playoff collapse and disgrace we gave no 🤬 about him...only thing saving him was fans hoping he'd bring phil back to some fans disillusioned that Phil would actually coach again.
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P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
yall lost the right to say that after bashing Pau for 3 years and always wanting to trade him.... he was the scapegoat before Dwight....
Dawg stop taking what Espn says as what real lakers fans think....
Pau was criticized for 2011 against hornets and mavs, that's it...and he deserved it
every laker fan I know been 🤬 on gasol for years. Same thing happen before last year when bynum got moved and y'all we're talking about going 82-0 -
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Bucks agree on a two-year, $6.5M deal with Carlos Delfino, w/ team option for 3rd that could pay him nearly $10M, league sources tell Y! -
Memphis should of went after Delfino, solid move for the Bucks, he played his best years there
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anthony morrow needs to go to detroit
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Looking more forward to the Vegas Summer League games. I'm very interested to see how the Spurs british 4/5 Ryan Richards will do against some decent talent. Damn shame our other Euro guy (Davis Bertans) who was playing well overseas got hurt because he was gonna play Summer league also.
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P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
since kobe has 5 rings, he won't get the blame. now howard is gone, gasol and pringles will get the blame when the lakers lose. I don't blame howard for leaving, he never wanted to play for the lakers anyway. stephen a smith said howard wanted to play for brooklyn, when he was in orlando. -
P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
since kobe has 5 rings, he won't get the blame. now howard is gone, gasol and pringles will get the blame when the lakers lose. I don't blame howard for leaving, he never wanted to play for the lakers anyway. stephen a smith said howard wanted to play for brooklyn, when he was in orlando.
The funny thing is the thing that really drove him to go to L.A. was that he knew the only team that had a good deal on the table for him was Houston. He told our management time and time again, "trade for me if you want to, I won't re-sign". -
P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
usually i ignore Swayze but we're gonna just let da bolded slide even tho it was pure unadulterated ducktales? -
BlackAX410 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Within the Los Angeles Lakers, there had been a belief that a late January team meeting in Memphis could've been the beginning of Dwight Howard's future with the franchise, or merely the beginning of the end. No restraints, no mercy, no holding back. Kobe Bryant had climbed into Howard in a way that was startling, sobering, a moment of penetrating and unpleasant truths.
Every time you trash me to teammates, it gets back to me, witnesses said Bryant told Howard in the visiting locker room of the FedEx Forum. Every time you do one of your impersonations when I walk out of the room, I find out. Everything tumbled out of Bryant, one grievance after another, and the Lakers coaches and players sat watching the two biggest personas in the room push closer together, or irreconcilably apart.
Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen. He hated it with Shaquille O'Neal, but Shaq performed on a championship plane for the Lakers and delivered a disposition to dominate on the floor.
"Kobe talked to Dwight in a way that I don't think anyone one had ever talked to him – not in Orlando, not here, not in his life, I'm betting," one witness in the room told Yahoo! Sports. "He's been coddled, and Kobe wasn't going to coddle him."
Despite Howard's recuperation from his back injury, few believed he had been playing with the proper passion and purpose – not the coaches, not the players, not opponents – and those within the Lakers understood Howard's most rebellious weapon was never confrontation, but holding back on the court.
There were bigger issues than Bryant and Howard in the room, but everyone understood that this meeting – first reported in the Los Angeles Times – had been about the two superstars, about the tension that had been building with the losing, about the push and pull between selling Howard on staying a Laker, or begging him.
In the end, Kobe Bryant didn't chase Dwight Howard out of Los Angeles, nor did Mike D'Antoni, nor did anyone in the employ of the franchise. The Lakers weren't for Howard, and Howard wasn't for the Lakers. Every executive and coach who has ever worked with Howard will tell you: He needs to be the face of the franchise and he needs unconditional love. Those weren't immediately available to him with the Lakers, and they'll be showered upon him in Houston now.
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"If he missed two big free throws in Orlando, it was forgotten in 30 minutes," one league official with ties to Howard's past says. "If he missed them in L.A., they talked about it for a week. With Dwight, he has to be the face of the franchise. Anything less than that, and it would be difficult for him to function at his highest level."
KOBE DA GOAT
so who tells Kobe about bad shots and when he 🤬 up on defense? All that if u joke on me Ill find out about is just some 🤬 .... ole fake leader ass 🤬 ... anyway LA yall bashed him to death when he was there.... then begged him to stay now yall salty he dipped.... I thought it was the coaches and team leaders job to get the best out of players? If he needed coddling to get 20 and 10 a night then do it. hell Kobe was coddled and got his way when he was the star coming up.... Phil Jackson woulda got the best outta Dwight but LA 🤬 that whole situation all the way up cuz of pride
Well technically mike dantoni got Dwight's best statistical season out of him in many categories, as he explained in there meeting....
Kobe takes the shots when no one else steps up, this isn't 2001 son, and no one begged anyone if you was actually in LA, we didn't give a 🤬 if he stayed....did you even watch playoffs?? Dwight lost LA forever right there.
Pau at Center>>>Dwight
And 2 rings including 1 against Dwight is the etherous ether I deliver to you.
usually i ignore Swayze but we're gonna just let da bolded slide even tho it was pure unadulterated ducktales?
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ghostf4cekilla wrote: »and i don't see houston winning a ring yeah they got dwight but that 🤬 don't have the heart of a champion have y'all read the yahoo article on the situation? there saying dwight wanted unconditional love and to be cuddle nto be treated like a grownass man that 🤬 make my stomach turn straight scust
How do you know he has no heart? Same 🤬 was said about LBJ. And he has two rings in 4 appearances in 11 years as the unquestioned best player on his team.
He took Rashard Lewis to the Championship. That's a monumental feat by itself.
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Shizlansky wrote: »ghostf4cekilla wrote: »and i don't see houston winning a ring yeah they got dwight but that 🤬 don't have the heart of a champion have y'all read the yahoo article on the situation? there saying dwight wanted unconditional love and to be cuddle nto be treated like a grownass man that 🤬 make my stomach turn straight scust
How do you know he has no heart? Same 🤬 was said about LBJ. And he has two rings in 4 appearances in 11 years as the unquestioned best player on his team.
He took Rashard Lewis Juwan Howard to the Championship. That's a monumental feat by itself.
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Shizlansky wrote: »ghostf4cekilla wrote: »and i don't see houston winning a ring yeah they got dwight but that 🤬 don't have the heart of a champion have y'all read the yahoo article on the situation? there saying dwight wanted unconditional love and to be cuddle nto be treated like a grownass man that 🤬 make my stomach turn straight scust
How do you know he has no heart? Same 🤬 was said about LBJ. And he has two rings in 4 appearances in 11 years as the unquestioned best player on his team.
He took Rashard Lewis Juwan Howard to the Championship. That's a monumental feat by itself.
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GOT DAMN! A Kings fan...Just glad we didn't match the Pelicans offer and let Reke walk, we needed that money...Signing back Carl Landry was an ok move but i think we're positioning to make a move for a legit 3...I like what the new ownership has been doin so fa..Cousins and McLemore are the building blocks.
Lmao..Absolutely! I'll never jump ship on my team...If I was talkin 🤬 back in the early 2000's when we were contenders I gotta stick around for the terrible times too..We'll be back competitive in another 2-3 years, I like the new management. -
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