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The Cruel 🤬 of the Old Testament and evil in the Bible

beenwize
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edited January 2014 in R & R (Religion and Race)
Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?


This thread is just to highlight some of the evil in the Bible and to expose the false 🤬 behind it.. If you are Christian nd you don't like the truth of your book then step away now. It's time for truth to be exposed whether it agrees with your belief system or not so if you the truth makes you my enemy then "step away." :)

btw I believe in a Creator... I just don't believe in religion or religious 🤬 's of tyranny.

The Darker Side Of 🤬

If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen 🤬 of worship, you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look at the volume of horrendous acts performed or directed by the darker side of 🤬 . However, you shouldn’t interpret this chapter as an attempt at an exhaustive record of every violent act attributable to 🤬 because such a review would require another book all together.

Upon completion of reading this chapter, you should realize that 🤬 was a mass murderer among other things, often directing others to 🤬 and 🤬 for him. He also distributes sinister laws and explains what punishments will ensue if someone deviates from his wishes. What’s worse, the ultimate penalty for disobedience is Hell: eternal torture of unfathomable proportions. Even if we ignore the previously discussed scientific problems debunking the notion of an affiliation between divinity and the Bible, you should still feel resistance against worshipping this particular Hebrew deity after learning of the details emphasized over the next few selections.


🤬 ’s Genocidal Wrath

Without any conceivable doubt, I firmly believe that the Hebrew 🤬 is the most evil character of all time. Starting with the book of Genesis, we learn that he’s an insanely angry deity. Of the many atrocities committed in the Old Testament, 🤬 is usually the sole participator. The Genesis authors record the first such instance in chapters 6-8 as the account of Noah’s flood.

The reason that 🤬 decides to drown the entire world, killing nearly every living person and animal on earth, is his belief that people are evil and unworthy of existence (Genesis 6:5). So what if they were evil? As Lenny Bruce once exclaimed, “The fault lies with the manufacturer!” 🤬 allegedly created humans, yet he faults us for being guided by our desires, instincts, and natural tendencies. Since he’s supposedly omniscient, 🤬 realized how we were destined to turn from the beginning. He must also have realized that his lament would fuel the urge to destroy his precious creations, only to leave himself back where he started. Even so, he creates Adam, yet hundreds of years later, he drowns nearly all the men, women, and children on the face of the earth because he deliberately chose not to make us to his liking the first time.

Even if we suppose the adults deserved to die slow and torturous deaths, what association could we conceivably make between their decisions and the adolescent victims of the flood? Couldn’t 🤬 have just placed the innocent children and animals aside for a while so that they wouldn’t drown? If not, how about a humane death at the very least? Drowning is a horrible way for people to die. As a result of hopelessly treading water for hours, their muscles burned due to large amounts of lactic acid production. Once they finally gave up, went under, and held their breaths, acidic carbon dioxide eroded their lungs until the unbearable pain forced them to inhale where there was no air for them to breathe. The water brought into their lungs robbed their bodies of oxygen, causing them to go numb. As water violently rushed in and out of their chests, the currents eventually laid their heavily breathing, slowly dying bodies at the bottom of the ocean. The inhaled water caused their lungs to tear and bleed profusely. As their blood supply dwindled, their hearts slowly came to a halt. Even so, their brains continued to process information for another couple of minutes. They were patently aware that death was imminent, yet they could do nothing to speed it or prevent it. I imagine that their final reflections would have been on what they did to deserve such treatment.

As you see, drowning is not a quick and painless death. Regardless, this is what 🤬 did to every man, woman, child, baby, and animal on earth because he made a mistake! To make matters disgustingly worse, the flood accomplished nothing! The omniscient 🤬 realizes after the flood that a man’s imagination is evil from youth (Genesis 8:21). He seemingly allows us to be evil to this day, just like those he purportedly drowned in the flood. Even if this was the sole befuddled and immoral act carried out by 🤬 , I’m positive that I couldn’t bring myself to worship him. However, this is only the beginning of his mass-murdering spree.

Another genocidal operation courtesy of 🤬 takes place in the cities of 🤬 and Gomorrah. Above these cities, he creates a rain of burning sulfur to 🤬 every inhabitant, save Lot and his family, because they’re deemed evil by the almighty judge, jury, and executioner (Genesis 19:24-25). Now, refer back to the points illustrated in the previous paragraph. 🤬 should have assumed the responsibility of taking measures to prevent these actions from somehow becoming necessary. He even remembered that men were evil by nature after the flood. Did he suddenly forget his opinion when he destroyed two entire cities of men, women, and children? Again, we should sincerely hope that this all-knowing deity would learn to take some of the blame in these situations. Like drowning, burning is not a quick and painless death. Fortunately, these people didn’t truly feel any pain because the tale is an obvious work of fiction. If you travel to the locations around which historians believe these cities are based, you’ll effortlessly discover 🤬 of sulfur forming naturally on the ground. In other words, as is the case for Noah’s flood, we have the likely inspiration for the imaginative tale.


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  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    The Christian 🤬 Yahweh did all of the following: He created evil (Lam. 3: 38, Jer. 26: 3, Ezek. 20: 25 – 26, Judges 9: 3, 1, Sam. 16: 23, 18: 10); He deceived (Jer. 4: 10, 15: 18, 20: 7, 2, Chron 18: 22, Ezek. 14: 9, 2Thess. 2: 9 – 12); He told people to lie (Ex. 3: 18, 1Sam. 16: 2);

    He lied (Gen. 2: 17, 2Sam. 7: 13); He rewarded liars (Ex. 1: 15 – 20); He ordered men to become drunken (Jer. 25: 27); He rewarded the fool and the transgressor (Prov. 26: 10); He mingled a perverse spirit (Isa. 19: 14); He spread dung on people's faces (Mal.2: 3); He ordered stealing (Ezek. 39: 10, Ex 3: 22); He made false prophesies (Jonah 3: 4, Gen. 5: 10); He changed his mind (Jonah 3: 10).

    He caused adultery (2 Sam. 12: 11 – 12); He ordered the taking of a harlot (Hosea 1: 2, 3:1 – 2); He killed (Num. 16: 35, 21: 6, Deut. 32: 39, 1Sam. 2: 26, Psalm 135: 10); He ordered killing (Lev. 26: 7 – 8, Num. 25: 4 – 5); He had a temper (Deut. 13: 17, Judges 3: 8); He was often jealous (Deut. 5: 9,6: 15); He wasn't omnipresent (Gen. 4:16, 11: 5, 1Kings 19: 11 – 12); He wasn't omniscient (Deut. 8: 2, 13: 3, 2Chron. 32: 31);

    He often repented ( Ex. 4: 22 – 23, Joshua 22: 20, Rom. 5: 12); He played favourites ( Deut. 7: 6, 14: 2, 1Sam. 12: 22); He sanctioned slavery ( Ex. 21: 20 – 21, Deut. 15: 17); He

    degraded deformed people (Lev. 21: 16 – 23). He punished a bastard for being illegitimate (Deut. 23: 2);

    He punished many for the acts of one (Gen. 3: 16, 20: 18); He punished children for the sins of their fathers (Ex. 12: 29, 20: 5, Deut. 5:9); He prevented people from hearing his word (Isa. 6: 10, John 12:39 – 40). He supported human sacrifice (Ex. 22: 29 – 30, Ezek. 20:26);

    He ordered cannibalism (Lev. 26: 29, Jer. 19: 9); He demanded virgins as a part of war plunders (Num. 31: 31 – 36); He ordered gambling (Joshua 14: 2, Num. 26: 52, 55 – 56).

    He ordered horses to be hamstrung (Joshua 11: 6). He sanctioned violation of the enemy's women (Deut 21: 10 – 14); He excused the beating of slaves to death (Ex. 21: 20 – 21); He required a woman to marry her 🤬 (Deut. 22: 28: 29); He taught war (Psalm 144: 1);

    He ordered the burning of human faeces to cook food (Ezek. 21: 3 – 5); He intentionally issued bad laws (Ezek. 20: 25); He excused the sins of prostitutes and adulterers (Hosea 4: 14); He excused a murderer and promised his protection (Gen. 4: 8 – 15); He killed a man who refused to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law (Gen. 38: 9 – 10); and He is indecisive ( Gen. 18: 17).
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    I know that your intentions are to show that there are things that "Christians" fail to acknowledge and to maybe get people to look more closely as to what the Bible is saying. But, I think you are missing one important point. Since "The Fall", man has been 🤬 's Enemy. Because of sin, there was nothing good in man that deserved any favors from 🤬 . If 🤬 wanted to, He could have just "started over"...and that almost happened in the story of Noah.

    There is this sense that maybe you think there is something inherently good about mankind; that mankind can be good if allowed to rid ourselves of the things we consider evil. But, evil will continue to exist whether someone worships 🤬 or not.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    You are coming off as the bible is all true and Yahweh is the true Creator. thats where we differ.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭


    An In Exodus, we find 🤬 coercing Moses into becoming his spokesperson for freeing the Israelite slaves from the Egyptian Pharaoh. Moses initially points out that he’s a terrible speaker, but 🤬 ’s reply to this passive resistance is a set of rhetorical questions in which he takes credit for making people deaf, dumb, and blind (Exodus 4:10-11). Some of these handicapped people are a burden to others, and many die without ever demonstrating independence. Nevertheless, 🤬 takes great pride in this achievement. Most of us typically find people who relish in the misery of others to be deeply disturbed. Instead of correcting these atrociously boastful deeds, 🤬 seemingly leaves it up to us to develop ideas for combating transcendentally induced handicaps. Ironically, with advances in medical science, we’re making genuine progress against 🤬 ’s wishes. His yearning to make certain people handicapped is useless, evil nonsense. Evidently, it’s a successful argument because Moses decides to accept the offer. In the meeting among Moses, Aaron, and the Pharaoh, 🤬 doesn’t want his Israelites to go free without a fight. Instead, 🤬 instructs Moses and Aaron on exactly what steps to take so that the Pharaoh will initially become too stubborn to allow the people to leave. Obviously, 🤬 only wants an excuse to “bring forth [his] armies” against Egypt in order to punish the entire country for the decisions of one man to hold his chosen people as slaves (Exodus 7:1-14). The plagues that 🤬 carried out against Egypt as a result of the Pharaoh’s decision were turning the river to blood; sending an abundance of frogs, lice, locusts, and flies; killing every cow belonging to the people; inflicting boils upon all the citizens; creating a hailstorm to destroy their crops; instituting three days of darkness; and killing the firstborn male child in every household across the country. The darkness, boils, frogs, lice, locusts, and flies were quite punishing, but they wouldn’t necessarily ruin anyone’s life. The cattle slaughter, river of blood, and downpour of hail ruined the Egyptians’ sole water and food sources. Worst of all, 🤬 once again feels the necessity to eradicate thousands more innocent babies, children, and animals because one man was too stubborn to free his slaves. On the escape route, Moses miraculously parts the Red Sea and crosses safely. When the Egyptian army pursues, the waters regroup to drown the soldiers and horses (Exodus 7-14). The omnipotent Hebrew 🤬 could have easily freed the people and spared thousands of lives, but, of course, he doesn’t do things this way. One can only assume that he took sinister pleasure in murdering Egyptian soldiers for following orders from their superior officers. Thankfully, modern scholarship tells us that these events never took place either. I’ll explain the logic behind this comforting declaration in Moses And Other Historical Fabrications. 🤬 revisits the plague concept when he dishes one out on his chosen people for following Aaron’s orders to worship a golden calf (Exodus 32:35). Recall, however, that Aaron was one of the two men to whom they owed their freedom. Why would 🤬 punish his people for actions that they didn’t realize were “wrong,” especially when they had implicitly learned to trust the person giving the orders? This debacle seems to have shifted Aaron over to 🤬 ’s bad side because 🤬 later kills his two sons for building a “strange fire” (most likely meaning that they let a forbidden item burn) (Leviticus 10:1-2). No matter how many times I read passages like this, I’m always amazed how 🤬 kills people because they do something silly like build a displeasing campfire, but as we will soon see, he allows them to 🤬 female prisoners of war. On the subject of fire, 🤬 later sets some of the desert wanderers ablaze for complaining about their difficulties (Numbers 11:1). Keep in mind that they were now wandering around the desert for decades doing absolutely nothing after having been slaves in Egypt for centuries. When they complain about having no meat for nourishment, 🤬 provides them with a circle of quail three feet high and a day’s journey wide but immediately plagues and kills a handful of them for grumbling (Numbers 11:31-34). Later, the people become increasingly irritated over being homeless. In fact, circumstances are so miserable that they actually want to return to Egypt as slaves. Subsequently, Korah leads a group of 250 other upset individuals to stand up to Moses. Needless to say, they all pay for their mutiny. 🤬 opens the ground under Korah’s household and sucks everything he has, family and all, into the depths of the earth (Numbers 16:31-33). The remaining council of 250 are burned alive (Numbers 16:35). Does the punishment fit the so-called crime? Does 🤬 have any compassion for their situation? Obviously not, on both accounts. When the Israelites were upset that Moses caused those 250 people to die, 🤬 sends a plague to slay an additional 14,700 (Numbers 16:41-49). To close out the Pentateuch, 🤬 exterminates a number of his people who fall down and worship the gods of Baalpeor. A subsequent plague kills another 24,000 (Numbers 25:1-9). At least these people may have had some idea that what they were doing would result in a punishment…
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    Even if you don't believe the Bible to be true, at least get the story right. Even traditional fairy tales wouldn't be the stories that they are if you change them to mean what you want them to mean. According to the Bible, no one is innocent. No one is beyond 🤬 's Judgement. The people 🤬 had chose in the Bible were not without sin. Israel was no better than the Egyptians and there are places where even they were given over to their enemies by 🤬 and killed. But you paint this picture that the people that 🤬 chose somehow have earned some sort of divinity and don't have to worry about the judgement that awaits them as well.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    ^Quote me where i got the story wrong?
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    This whole thread for starters. The story is essentially about 🤬 's Redemption of man through Jesus. From Genesis to Revelation, it's about how all of the events of man led to the promise of a messiah to save the world from sin.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    You failed to quote me... Quote me on something.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    edited January 2014
    For The Sins Of Another

    🤬 ’s episodes of murdering innocent individuals for the faults of their leaders, fathers, or other ancestors are not uncommon in the Old Testament. Jephthah asks for 🤬 ’s assistance in killing the children of Ammon and promises him the first person out of his house upon his return as a burnt sacrifice if he will agree to aid with the massacre. 🤬 concurs and lethally delivers the children of Ammon into Jephthah’s hands. When Jephthah returns, his daughter, an only child, makes her way outside to welcome him home. Two months later, Jephthah regretfully fulfills his promise by burning his daughter as a sacrifice to 🤬 (Judges 11:29-39). Why would 🤬 allow a man to offer an innocent person as a reward unless 🤬 also intended for certain people to be mere possessions?

    While David is King, he decides to conduct a census: a horrendous sin in 🤬 ’s eyes. As punishment for his poor decision, he is to select among seven years of famine, three months of fleeing from his enemies, and three days of pestilence. Unable to choose from the offered catastrophes, 🤬 picks the three days of pestilence that result in the deaths of 70,000 men. Women and children weren’t mentioned, not that the Bible considered them to have any real value in the first place. Again, 🤬 murders enough people to fill a sizable city for the “sin” of one man. David subsequently cries out to 🤬 and asks him why he wants to murder innocent people who had nothing to do with the decision to execute a census. Of course 🤬 doesn’t provide an impossible answer for this sensible question, but his reasons scarcely seem morally or ethically justifiable (2 Samuel 24:10-17).

    David also desires a woman named Bathsheba even though she’s married to one of David’s soldiers. Driven by his 🤬 , David orders her husband to the front lines of a battle so that the enemy will take care of his problem. 🤬 then becomes extremely angry with David for this relatively petty crime. Once the new couple has a child, 🤬 afflicts it with illness for a week before watching it die (2 Samuel 11, 12:14-18). Yet again, 🤬 exterminates an innocent baby for the actions of the father.

    At one point, 🤬 sends a famine upon David’s followers. When he makes an inquiry to 🤬 for a justification, he’s told, “It is for Saul, and his 🤬 house, because he slew the Gibeonites” (2 Samuel 21:1). Saul died years ago, yet 🤬 just now decides to punish people who had nothing to do with the decisions of their former leader.

    David’s new son, Solomon, turns away from the Hebrew 🤬 and decides to worship other deities. Solomon’s decision infuriates 🤬 , but he isn’t punished because 🤬 recently came to like David. Instead, he punishes Solomon’s son by taking away part of his land when he comes to power (1 Kings 11:9-13). Once again, we see the impossibility of being free from 🤬 ’s anger even when living in total obedience to him. In essence, Solomon’s son was divinely punished before he was ever born.

    Next in the line of father-son reprimands is the account of King Josiah. “And like unto him was there no King before him, that turned to the Lord with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; neither after him arose there any like him. Notwithstanding the Lord turned not from the fierceness of his great wrath…because of all the provocations that Manasseh had provoked him withal” (2 Kings 23:24-26). The passage speaks for itself. Yet again, 🤬 punishes a seemingly perfect person for someone else’s transgressions.



    🤬 ’s Novel Method of Murder

    Instead of directly murdering people or using his followers to execute similar commands, the apparently insatiable 🤬 begins sending animals to 🤬 those who displease him. On one occasion, he has a lion 🤬 a man because he refuses to hit someone (1 Kings 20:35). 🤬 sends his lions out again to 🤬 a group of people who were new to Samaria. The reason for this atrocity is their lack of worship, even though they were never informed of the proper worship methods (2 Kings 17:24-26). However, this supposedly insignificant detail didn’t halt 🤬 from killing them. He had to have known that he would eventually murder this party, but instead of properly instructing them, 🤬 just kills them. There’s not even a miniscule resemblance of justice in the Hebrew 🤬 .

    In an exploit of inconceivable irrationality, 🤬 sends forth two bears to 🤬 forty-two children for making fun of Elisha’s bald head (2 Kings 2:23-24). Why would the omnibenevolent 🤬 feel the necessity to have two bears viciously maul little children for acting like…children? This is supposed to be the same “wonderful” and “loving” 🤬 who promises us eternal life, but an entity capable of these inane activities could certainly change his mind and banish all of his worshippers to Hell. Christians never have to justify such passages because, of course, they never read them!
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    The issue isn't with quotation. It's your perspective. You believe that the Bible's primary purpose is to show people how to live. It's not. It never was.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    lol I don't believe the Bible is a primary purpose to show people how to live. that's what yourself and Christians believe. You have never quoted me on anything. I wanted you to quote me on something above so I can end this dialogue.
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    You just reiterated my point. You think that Christians think that the Bible is a primary source of how to live...so you argue against it...when that is not what the Bible is about.

    Again...it's not about quotes. It is your perspective.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    alissowack wrote: »
    You just reiterated my point. You think that Christians think that the Bible is a primary source of how to live...so you argue against it...when that is not what the Bible is about.

    Again...it's not about quotes. It is your perspective.

    are you looking for a reasons to comment?

    this is why non believers usually know the Bible better than believers.


    Joshua 1:8
    This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.


    Deuteronomy 6:6-9

    6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

    7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

    8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

    9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.




    Deuteronomy 11:18-21
    18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

    19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

    20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    edited January 2014
    @Zombie stop lurking in the background. if u got something to say then say it.

    here is more info about your Yahweh demon.. 🤬 ass false 🤬 of darkness Yahweh.

  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    beenwize wrote: »
    @Zombie stop lurking in the background. if u got something to say then say it.

    here is more info about your Yahweh demon.. 🤬 ass false 🤬 of darkness Yahweh.


    you have posted this video before and it's 🤬 you are an ultra troll. until you put forward something interesting I am basically ignoring you
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    zombie wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    @Zombie stop lurking in the background. if u got something to say then say it.

    here is more info about your Yahweh demon.. 🤬 ass false 🤬 of darkness Yahweh.


    you have posted this video before and it's 🤬 you are an ultra troll. until you put forward something interesting I am basically ignoring you

    if you are ignoring me then stay your lame ass out my thread and worship your 🤬 ass demonic 🤬 Yahweh.
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    beenwize wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    @Zombie stop lurking in the background. if u got something to say then say it.

    here is more info about your Yahweh demon.. 🤬 ass false 🤬 of darkness Yahweh.


    you have posted this video before and it's 🤬 you are an ultra troll. until you put forward something interesting I am basically ignoring you

    if you are ignoring me then stay your lame ass out my thread and worship your 🤬 ass demonic 🤬 Yahweh.

    no. when you post rubbish with no proper explanation I will wack you simple as that.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    zombie wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    @Zombie stop lurking in the background. if u got something to say then say it.

    here is more info about your Yahweh demon.. 🤬 ass false 🤬 of darkness Yahweh.


    you have posted this video before and it's 🤬 you are an ultra troll. until you put forward something interesting I am basically ignoring you

    if you are ignoring me then stay your lame ass out my thread and worship your 🤬 ass demonic 🤬 Yahweh.

    no. when you post rubbish with no proper explanation I will wack you simple as that.

    Again when you all OVERSTAND that YHWH Is thw first being to Lie in Genesis 2:17 you gone realize why I DO NOT let your 🤬 have ANY ROOM to breathe.

    Y'all 🤬 (NGR) IS SO IGNORANT AND BLIND that you don't even Overstand that If Eating of That damn tree Made us Like YHWH (according to Genesis 3:22) whom YOU ALL consider Perfect them explain to me How in the hell Genezis 3 is thw fall of Man?????

    Adam and eve perfect When the Only Knew Good Right??

    Explain to me how in the Hell they are all of a sudden NOT PERFECT when they know of Evil and becomw Just like YHWH???

    Yall NGR dont even see how Psychologically ASS BACKWARDS that is???

    Fact is the 🤬 of the Bible is a 🤬 Joke.
    1-he left adam and eve STUPID
    2-he Lied to adam ontop of keeping him Ignorant
    3-he SUPPOSEDLY left you NGR in Egipt for 430 while he was off chilln and RESTING Like all Supreme Omnipotent and Omniscient beings do
    4-he is afraid of what can happen if adam and eve become Immortal????
    5-he sacrifices his son because he cant atone for his own mess?

    YHWH in your bible is a Joke. What type of Grown man would allow his son to be sacrificed?

    YHWH is not a Loving father. He is damn near a devil. Dont pray for me. I dont need it. I have better access to the REAL YHWHs than the rest of you Hyksos and KRSTians
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lol at you unwize I would break down to you why 1_5 are wrong but you are a troll and no one here takes you serious so you might as well lose your password
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    beenwize wrote: »
    alissowack wrote: »
    You just reiterated my point. You think that Christians think that the Bible is a primary source of how to live...so you argue against it...when that is not what the Bible is about.

    Again...it's not about quotes. It is your perspective.

    are you looking for a reasons to comment?

    this is why non believers usually know the Bible better than believers.


    Joshua 1:8
    This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.


    Deuteronomy 6:6-9

    6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

    7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

    8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

    9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.




    Deuteronomy 11:18-21
    18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

    19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

    20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:

    You are looking at a tree and calling it a forest. Of course there are passages that stress how to live, but it is not the big picture. Jesus is the big picture.
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    zombie wrote: »
    lol at you unwize I would b
    reak down to you why 1_5 are wrong but you are a troll and no one here takes you serious so you might as well lose your password

    Hiphop died over a decade ago and anybody on here discussing hiphop is a unconcious fool not worth taking serious.

    Is YHWH/Ahayah REALLY the Supreme 🤬 ???

    Why did THE LORD kick the Woman and man out of the Garden?

    Lmao let me show you why he is not THE SUPREME 🤬 .

    He kicked them out BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY >MIGHT< do. An OMNISCIENT being does not go off of suppositions. (I edited this... continuing where I left off) Second of all, he said "...LEST HE PUT FORTH HIS HAND, AND TAKE ALSO OF THE TREE OF LIFE, AND EAT, AND LIVE FOREVER..."

    Explain why an Omnipotent? Omniscient, SUPREME 🤬 would say that?

    What YOUR 🤬 JUST Admitted is that if the MORTAL Man and Wombman Ate of the fruit of the tree of Life and became Immortal is that HE would NOT be able to 🤬 them.

    Now what type of Omnipotent SUPREME 🤬 says that?

    Your YHWH ELOHIM/LORD 🤬 is SOO Supreme yet if His creation eats of a fruit that can make them immortal then they gone be too much for him. SMDH.

    If im wrong them explain to me EXACTLY WHY your 🤬 did not want them to eat of the tree of life. Because if he is the SUPREME 🤬 then He should be able to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING RIGHT??? So why would Adam amd Eve being immortal and have THE EXACT Characteristics of YHWH be a Problem?
  • Arya Tsaddiq
    Arya Tsaddiq Shalawam The Daughter of BabylonMembers Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who do you propose the 🤬 of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is then? @beenwize

    A false 🤬 ?

    If he is false then is the true for even spoke of in the bible?

    do you believe anything in the bible is true?
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    alissowack wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    alissowack wrote: »
    You just reiterated my point. You think that Christians think that the Bible is a primary source of how to live...so you argue against it...when that is not what the Bible is about.

    Again...it's not about quotes. It is your perspective.

    are you looking for a reasons to comment?

    this is why non believers usually know the Bible better than believers.


    Joshua 1:8
    This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.


    Deuteronomy 6:6-9

    6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

    7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

    8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

    9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.




    Deuteronomy 11:18-21
    18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

    19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

    20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:

    You are looking at a tree and calling it a forest. Of course there are passages that stress how to live, but it is not the big picture. Jesus is the big picture.

    Do you eat pork?
  • beenwize
    beenwize Members Posts: 2,024 ✭✭
    edited January 2014
    Who do you propose the 🤬 of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is then? @beenwize

    A false 🤬 ?

    If he is false then is the true for even spoke of in the bible?

    do you believe anything in the bible is true?

    because the 🤬 of Abraham as depicted in the KJV Old Testament is a false 🤬 and maybe even a demon.

    There is to many points to list.

    1. He sends bears to 🤬 "children" for making fun of a prophet

    2. He condones slavery.

    3. He makes it lawful to have your 🤬 circumcised. that alone shows us that he is a false 🤬 because if he is truly 🤬 he would create man already circumcised from birth...

    4. he is jealous and a mass murderer.

    5. he commands ppl to 🤬 friends and family for worshipping imaginary gods and he commands the Israelites to 🤬 entire towns.. Then he mentions to 🤬 all the women children, but keep the "🤬 women children" for yourselves. What type of 🤬 would allow "🤬 women children" that just had their families slaughtered to be kept as property by the same men that killed their mom and dad? And not all women were kept. Only 🤬 women children so what do you suppose "🤬 " women were left alive to do? smh!


    This is nothing there is way too much to list and yes I do believe that the true 🤬 is spoken of in the BIble, but most of that is in the New Testament. I believe the Father Jesus came to reveal was not Yahweh or the 🤬 of the Old Testament irregardless of what the King James "version" Bible says.


    My question to you is have you read the Bible cover to cover?
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This 🤬 has an unhealthy obsession with king james it's like he does not believe that there are other version of the bible.

    The 🤬 of the bible does not condone slavery as we know it
    the so called "children" were really young men not 7 years olds
    People had to under go circumcision as a sign of their commitment it also set them apart from others.
    From gods perspective no one ever dies so he can't really murder and real death does not happen on earth.
    And in times of war since he is also a war 🤬 he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good
    and in his mercy he let some of the women live.