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How come the media isn't covering the Ukraine right now...
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That's their problem for now, not ours.
maybe I took it too far...but u r nonetheless
the implications are flying under the radar, not to alert American citizens of its impact
ok so why was it on the news 24/7 a few weeks ago?
was is the key word
it sounds more like you're buying into some 🤬 NRA BOOGEYMAN story that confuses both what the NRA does and what kind of money they throw around.
then we get the whole "invaded Afghanistan to seize gas and oil" thing which is a rant that seems unsupported, but also doesn't have anything to do with the weird NRA tangent.
what i'm saying makes your views uninformed is not that you disagree with me but that the content itself is wrong. it's stereotypical "the NRA is EVIL" nonsense.
take Halliburton: they lobby for a conflict in which they directly profit from the ensuing contracts? makes some sense. but the NRA is not making the arms you're discussing; in that case, it would make sense for the ACTUAL COMPANIES to lobby the government. which they do, to win arms contracts, without having the NRA do it for them. the NRA isn't a gun manufacturers lobby.
and then, of course, many of these companies benefiting are not actually "American-branded weaponry," presuming we're talking about small arms, since the NRA doesn't typically spend much time discussing armored vehicles or artillery or anything along those lines.
they're not selling me a bedside table revolver or an "assault rifle" because they both manufacture OR sell guns. and i read gun control as what the term means.
so, yeah, the NRA does lobby and doesn't just raise funds for PACs. the PVF is their thing and they've run it for a while to, oddly enough, argue for gun rights. not sure what the NRBA thing is.
what the hell are "live ammo guns?" let's also consider that since children cannot actually BUY guns, they're probably not marketing to kids. but again, they're not making or selling guns, so they're not the ones marketing guns anyway.
okay, let's hear about some of this American-supplied weaponry the Taliban's been funneled by the NRA that they're using. because it seems like the Taliban got their start with Pakistan-supplied arms dumps and has gone from there to continue to use Combloc-style weapons.
i know you're pushing this unrealistic conspiracy theory because "NRA IS EVIL" but i think we're just seeing that you're not that familiar with the NRA.
actually, the argument here is all the NRA stuff and you're not substantiating it with anything as far as i can tell.
DU shells are standard tank ammunition..........DU shells were used in the Gulf War, so why act like they were being tested recently
plus Fallujah was an urban fight, not too many tanks were even involved in the fighting...........I was there personally in 2003 and 2004
would you like to demonstrate how the gun manufacturers are "keeping the NRA afloat?" because this is one of those things you have claimed WITHOUT showing evidence for.
it's a 5+ million member organization that gets a lot of its clout from mobilizing membership. take a look at the money spent in the recent Colorado recall(s): the NRA got outspent by outside-the-state anti-gun groups, and yet this is the group you're claiming is swollen with "gun manufacturer money." doesn't add up.
one, you can't "invest" in the NRA.
two, "lobby the government in the commercial retail market?" do you have any idea how firearms are ACTUALLY regulated in the US? or ANY passing knowledge of American laws that relate to firearms?
three, again with this "rapid fire assault rifle" 🤬 that tells me you're not really knowledgeable about the topic you're railing against. can we get some firearms knowledge before we get the rants against them?
so here's where this IMMEDIATELY falls apart: you have to make Universal Studios equivalent to "NRA/Bushmaster board members," even though these are two totally separate and different groups. then you're comparing movies to guns and the NRA to directors even though THE NRA DOES NOT MANUFACTURE OR SELL FIREARMS.
🤬 analogies repeated do not become better with repetition.
a lot of guns, well beyond "high end assault rifles," cost "hundreds of dollars." the most expensive guns out there are probably the high-end sporting guns you're not freaking out about. any decent gun of ANY type costs "hundreds of dollars."
but okay, you're not familiar with what guns cost. "fire multiple bullets a second?" either you're one of these people that thinks 🤬 FULLY-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS are being swapped for handfuls of cash at gun shops, or you're just throwing out some crazed description of mundane guns that you think sounds terrible.
yeah, you are. i'm the one that's familiar with guns, you're the one using weird phrases like "live ammo guns" that imply you don't know what you're talking about.
FYI, another phrase in this category is "guns that fire bullets with shells you that will go through things."
the closest thing i've seen that would seem to be "marketing to kids" would be manufacturers licensing their products to games, but this seems more a combination of designers wanting to do that themselves and targeting more of a young adult demographic. but since you brought this up with a "school shooting" context, your implication is that gun manufacturers are marketing to THOSE kids and that, in turn, their parents are buying them those guns. seems a little off.
you're the one in here making crazed conspiracy theories that you should support.
showed proof that the NRA donates to politicians? this is not something anyone disputes; you'll note that i have talked about the NRA lobbying. what you CLAIMED was this borderline unreadable quote of "Afghanistan is pretty 🤬 because Americas "gifts" bought with lobby money from Halliburton the NRA so they can buy weapons from weapons manufacturers to put in the hand of peace keeping forces like Academi now troops are pulling out even though the region is unstable." there has been nothing advanced to support THAT.