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So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

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  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    Michael Donovan - "I thought there had been an explosion or bomb up there"

    full quote

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  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    That was his though cuz he had no clue the building was coming down, and that's what he was hearing, the collapse.
  • blackamericablackamerica Members Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    VIBE wrote: »
    And Vibe said ain't no witnesses tho smh

    No, never said that, I said their words are TWISTED, as I just proved.

    I'll do another quote.
    You basically said there is NOTHING that insist there could've been a controlled demolition. You requested quotes w/ names of witnesses (as if they didn't exist) and calmly got sonned. Nothing else to prove on my part. Be ez out there son
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    I can go on.

    Again, these firefighters are explaining things in a 🤬 up and chaotic situation. When that building fell, it made a huge rumbling sound.

    Here

    The Naudet brothers 9/11 documentary. There were filing NY firemen doing their jobs and happen to capture the first plane hit when the firemen were called out to a gas leak (false alarm)
    Both brothers filmed two different ladders on 9/11. This Naudet brother capture the sounds of the first tower collapsing (South, 2nd hit)

    Tell me, what explosions do you hear? You can hear the towers collapsing rumble, not one single explosion.

  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    VIBE wrote: »
    And Vibe said ain't no witnesses tho smh

    No, never said that, I said their words are TWISTED, as I just proved.

    I'll do another quote.
    You basically said there is NOTHING that insist there could've been a controlled demolition. You requested quotes w/ names of witnesses (as if they didn't exist) and calmly got sonned. Nothing else to prove on my part. Be ez out there son

    And nothing does insist it was a controlled demo. They are describing a situation, personifying the collapse to an implosion.

    which btw, the towers collapsing wasn't an implosion, an implosion is when the building falls inward on itself, creating a pile of debris. The collapse was an "explosion" of debris that covered 16 acres. Demolition jobs do not create that big of a mess. Even experts say it's not a controlled demo.

    Controlled.

    It wasn't.

    16 acres of debris.
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    You didn't son me, Broski. Now you're waving the white flag. You realize the quotes ARE OUT OF CONTEXT. I'll do more.
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    Ed Cachia -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 53]
    we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down.

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    ^ explains what he thought it was because of how it collapsed, "didn't collapse at point of impact" from his vantage point, every camera angle shows both collapses start at the point of impact
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    The rest of those quotes stand as is, but again, obviously, what they were hearing were not actual explosions. They were hearing the building fall. They were seeing everything from 110-stories down from the impact zone.

    Not one helicopter footage, witness footage or documentary footage (Naudet brothers) ever recorded flashes or explosions.

    I've sat here and shown you why truthers are liars. I have fought my case. You've done nothing.
  • xxCivicxxxxCivicxx stew Members Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup, our gov'ment did it
    VIBE wrote: »
    You didn't son me, Broski. Now you're waving the white flag. You realize the quotes ARE OUT OF CONTEXT. I'll do more.

    You've been in denial throughout this ENTIRE thread, yes you absolutely have been getting schooled, you and s2j also have been schooling yourselves by way of his own ignorance

    You've continued to ignore facts that I have presented, but I'll throw some more ether in your face just for good measure

    Explain this please




    http://www.projectcensored.org/16-no-hard-evidence-connecting-bin-laden-to-9-11/
    Osama bin Laden’s role in the events of September 11, 2001 is not mentioned on the FBI’s “Ten Most Wanted” poster.
    On June 5, 2006, author Ed Haas contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation headquarters to ask why, while claiming that bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 1998 bombings of US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, the poster does not indicate that he is wanted in connection with the events of 9/11.
    Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI responded, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” Asked to explain the process, Tomb responded, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.”
    Haas pauses to ask the question, “If the US government does not have enough hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11, how is it possible that it had enough evidence to invade Afghanistan to ‘smoke him out of his cave?’” Through corporate media, the Bush administration told the American people that bin Laden was “Public Enemy Number One,” responsible for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people on September 11, 2001. The federal government claims to have invaded Afghanistan to “root out” bin Laden and the Taliban, yet nearly six years later, the FBI said that it had no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.



    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
    President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.

    Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban "turn [bin Laden] over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over." He added, "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty". In Jalalabad, deputy prime minister Haji Abdul Kabir - the third most powerful figure in the ruling Taliban regime - told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, but added: "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country".

    Interesting.


    I ask again, why are you making me walking you through this like you're a child??

    @vibe
    @s2j
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks
  • xxCivicxxxxCivicxx stew Members Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup, our gov'ment did it
    @Jabu_Rule


    What were you saying before about the UN?
  • Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    xxCivicxx wrote: »
    @Jabu_Rule


    What were you saying before about the UN?

    You talking about that time before 9\11? When Clinton chose to work with them instead of going in unilaterally? Oh, you don't wanna hear about that. I don't wanna ramble.
  • xxCivicxxxxCivicxx stew Members Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup, our gov'ment did it
    Jabu_Rule wrote: »
    xxCivicxx wrote: »
    @Jabu_Rule


    What were you saying before about the UN?

    You talking about that time before 9\11? When Clinton chose to work with them instead of going in unilaterally? Oh, you don't wanna hear about that. I don't wanna ramble.

    Lol and still you won't give up on your ignorance

    Not only could we have taken bin laden at any point, we were OFFERED the man if we could PROVE the allegations against him. But we couldn't

    So instead we chose to go bully the middle east
  • Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    But he chose not to do to wanting to work with the UN. But his history of working with the UN on foreign engagements instead of acting unilaterally holds no merit i suppose.
    Secretary-General, Calling Osama bin Laden’s Death ‘Watershed Moment’, Pledges Continuing United Nations Leadership in Global Anti-Terrorism Campaign
    http://www.un.org/press/en/2011/sgsm13535.doc.htm

    Say bruh, @xxCivicxx i thought you wanted me to end the convo with you? You can't seem to make up your mind.

    I'm gonna end it for you though. You will not be getting any more ignorant responses from me.
  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionMembers, Moderators Posts: 44,543 Regulator
    edited September 2015
    This argument will never be won by either side. Truth is nobody knows for 100% certain what happen.

    We all know the fire doesn't burn steel girders at the temp the fire was burning no matter what anyone say.

    We know WTC 7 fell down by something.

    We know Pentagon was hit by something but no video evidence was shown. Yet all video surveillance was taken from hotels, gas stations, DMV cameras, and other sources.

    We know that at the same day the planes were hijacked to run into bldgs. The government was running mock practice trials of planes running into bldgs

    We know the plane in PA evaporated.

    We also know that every plane in the US was grounded except two when the attacks happen.........Air force one and Bin Laden's uncle's private jet.

    What we don't know

    1. If the terrorist had more help to take the bldgs with explosions and planes.
    2. Pentagon tapes were taken for national security and no other reason
    3. The mock trials was told to he terrorist by a spy and that's the reason everything went well for them.
    4. If the hijackers had more explosions on the plane to do more damage in the bldgs
    5. The bldgs were 30yrs old at the time maybe their steal was aged and weakend from constant swaying from wind and age.

    Regardless I don't argue about this subject no more. This subject is damn near like religion lol a unwinnable debate



  • wAXed_poeticwAXed_poetic PhiladelphiaMembers Posts: 332 ✭✭✭
    Watch this no matter what you believe.
  • brown321brown321 Members Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the thing about all the drills is true, that's all the evidence needed for an inside job.

    Unless ol' binny had spies.
  • freshb651freshb651 Members Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just don't see how someone could not see the conspiracy side of this. We saw what the Government did with Iran

    Contra,even some people speculate that what the Cartels are doing is government endorsed. You mean to tell me

    that they caught Osama and just threw him in the water ? LMAOOOOOOO,That doesn't seem suspicious to you ?

    Since when do they give war criminals "proper burial",wouldn't he be brought back to America to either A:serve time

    for his crimes,or B:be put to death ? My theory is the whole thing was done for money(Oil overseas),and power(

    constantly monitoring society/Patriot Act),I think I stated earlier in this thread that Bush and Cheney own Halliburton

    oil company,guess what oil company got the contracts overseas.
  • blackamericablackamerica Members Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    brown321 wrote: »
    If the thing about all the drills is true, that's all the evidence needed for an inside job.

    Unless ol' binny had spies.
    Pretty much. You'll also find "military drills" right before alot of these so called mass shootings
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    brown321 wrote: »
    If the thing about all the drills is true, that's all the evidence needed for an inside job.

    Unless ol' binny had spies.
    Pretty much. You'll also find "military drills" right before alot of these so called mass shootings

    Yeah, let's do a military drill to draw attention by the crazies, pull off these "tragedies" within a few weeks then disappear.

    Yeah. Logic.
  • S2JS2J Members Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Nope, it was bin laden/taliban/terrorists
    VIBE wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    And Vibe said ain't no witnesses tho smh

    No, never said that, I said their words are TWISTED, as I just proved.

    I'll do another quote.
    You basically said there is NOTHING that insist there could've been a controlled demolition. You requested quotes w/ names of witnesses (as if they didn't exist) and calmly got sonned. Nothing else to prove on my part. Be ez out there son

    And nothing does insist it was a controlled demo. They are describing a situation, personifying the collapse to an implosion.

    which btw, the towers collapsing wasn't an implosion, an implosion is when the building falls inward on itself, creating a pile of debris. The collapse was an "explosion" of debris that covered 16 acres. Demolition jobs do not create that big of a mess. Even experts say it's not a controlled demo.

    Controlled.

    It wasn't.

    16 acres of debris.

    Hahahahhaa

    Aye. Be a man and give the guy his credit.


    BE CONSISTENT!

    I was ready to concede some doubt on the firefighter quotes, but he ethered the 🤬 outta yall by expanding the FULL quotes, just ugly exposure and typical half truths from biased conspiracy theorists . And it makes sense. A fuking building is falling on you of course it will sound like Fire and Brimstone

    And now you have this. 16 acres of debris? !?!

    BE CONSISTENT. Be a fuking man and acknowledge this.

    If these little ass inconsistencies (Bin Laden wasnt on the Most Wanted list for 9/11...really?) are enough to make you believe in an entire conspiracy, address this inconsistency that completely shatters your entire premise.

    Fuking pathetic
  • HundredEyes HundredEyes Members Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @VIBE @S2J

    2300(!) engineers and architects came together and released a booklet of 50 pages called beyond misinformation, no opinions,no 🤬 , just science regarding the collapse of the 3 wtc towers. Using material and concrete evidence. No speculation, just scientific facts.

    http://www.beyondmisinformation.org/

    now I know the .org and name etc makes it seem like some nutjobs, but just check it out bros.
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    I'll PDF it and add it to my iBooks.

    I see Richard Gage's name there. I highly dislike him. He has fixed 🤬 to fit his agenda. The others I don't know by name.

    I'll check it out. Thanks.
  • VIBEVIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe our gov knew about it but they didnt orchestrate it
    PDF

    http://cafr1.com/Beyond-Misinformation-2015.pdf
  • riddlerapriddlerap G Unit 4 Life 50's MansionMembers Posts: 17,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nope, it was bin laden/taliban/terrorists
    anyone who believes the government did this should also sign up and post here:

    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

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